Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 #1 Posted March 7, 2010 After looking at this article ... http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10518 and viewing this picture... [ATTACH]42497[/ATTACH] My friction plates are not lined up like that. I did have a new clutch basket installed about 4 years ago. maybe the mechanic messed it up? I noticed that on mine that are scattered all over the place ,there are some plates with one notch and some with two notches. any input on this guys? Thanks, Jeff
dingy Posted March 7, 2010 #2 Posted March 7, 2010 Time for a new mechanic !! Always better when you can do it yourself. It gives one a better understanding, and you really care if its done right. Gary
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #3 Posted March 7, 2010 This is the ONLY thing that I did NOT do.. myself. As it was under warranty work for a (I) basket change. So.... What do I do? they should all be lined up correct? And how come this has worked for the past 4 years this way?
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #4 Posted March 7, 2010 Also, it say's there is line-up marks at 11 o'clock and 5 o'clock. I do not see any on the basket.
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #5 Posted March 7, 2010 Found the (..) Dots on the basket at 5 O'Clock.. I AM SO GLAD I DECIDED TO DO THIS MOD to find out what a crappy job those mechanics did. I still wonder why it work for so long? I just like knowing the theory behind having them matched up At least it will be the right way now. Steel Plates look real good as well, no glazing. Can not wait to get my new parts!
Yammer Dan Posted March 7, 2010 #6 Posted March 7, 2010 Several ways they can go togather and work. And some that they won't work at all. I had done a bunch of them before I put one back in and it wouldn't work. Wasn't my bike and I was stumped. Had to call Squidley. Just watch the notches when you take out and put them back same place.
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #7 Posted March 7, 2010 Dan, there were no (2) Aligned up the same. ALL different directions. *oops* Well now I gatta make them all the same as I have taken them off already But it did work this way for 4 years
Thom Posted March 7, 2010 #8 Posted March 7, 2010 the old way of stacking plates was to never line them up because they where not perfectly flat , you did not have a bad mech. just a old one
IH Truck Guy Posted March 7, 2010 #9 Posted March 7, 2010 the old way of stacking plates was to never line them up because they where not perfectly flat , you did not have a bad mech. just a old one Hey Thom,just read your tag line.. :snow: Better not tell that to Scooter Bob..... :rotfl:
dingy Posted March 7, 2010 #10 Posted March 7, 2010 Also check the steel plates. There is a very subtle difference between the outer edge profiles. One will be slightly rounded, the other, somewhat what sharp. You want the sharp sides all on the same side. I haven't heard of a difference on which way overall stack off steel plates face, just that they are all oriented the same. Gary
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #11 Posted March 7, 2010 Gary, I was just going to ask that Question . THANKS I did notice a sharp side and a rounded side. thinking of placing the sharp side inward. My Other Question am I screwed If I put the friction plates in the right way now? Since I have no clue now how they were before (all over the place) the Notches. One more. Do I just Soak the new friction plate as the others have already been oil soaked? How long DO I need to leave the new plate in the oil for? Thanks
Squeeze Posted March 7, 2010 #12 Posted March 7, 2010 Also check the steel plates. There is a very subtle difference between the outer edge profiles. One will be slightly rounded, the other, somewhat what sharp. You want the sharp sides all on the same side. I haven't heard of a difference on which way overall stack off steel plates face, just that they are all oriented the same. Gary It might be a good Idea to place the sharp Edges towards the outside of the Bike. Because this may cause, if at all, minimal Binding when the Clutch Lever is pulled, but it ensures the best Movement possible when the Clutch Lever is released and the Clutch should bite.
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #13 Posted March 7, 2010 Thanks Mr Squeeze Now all I need is the NEW parts least I am this far into the project.
Squeeze Posted March 7, 2010 #14 Posted March 7, 2010 Gary, I was just going to ask that Question . THANKS I did notice a sharp side and a rounded side. thinking of placing the sharp side inward. My Other Question am I screwed If I put the friction plates in the right way now? Since I have no clue now how they were before (all over the place) the Notches. One more. Do I just Soak the new friction plate as the others have already been oil soaked? How long DO I need to leave the new plate in the oil for? Thanks No, you're not screwed, but place them Notches like it's described in the Shop Manual. It's a balancing Thing. Yes, soak the new Plate in Oil, i prefer to have them in Oil over Night.
dingy Posted March 7, 2010 #15 Posted March 7, 2010 My Other Question am I screwed If I put the friction plates in the right way now? Since I have no clue now how they were before (all over the place) the Notches. Thanks I just looked at the manual back to the 83-85. Service manual indicates to align the notches. I am guessing you don't know how they were in prior to your disassembly, So I would think they should be put in as per manual. Any other way would probably be a crap shoot. Gary
Cougar Posted March 7, 2010 Author #16 Posted March 7, 2010 Yeah, It was kind of hard to figure out witch one was where when pulling them off and tring to keep them in the same. like I said there was not one of them was the same, it was like a bad rubics cube
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