CMIKE Posted February 21, 2010 #1 Posted February 21, 2010 Another Failed Goverment Program TWIC=Transportation Worker Identification Credential. A passport would not do...driver license would not do...So they developed the TWIC card. This is happening all over the place. We have to have them before entering some ports, before boarding vessels, and offshore production platforms. Requires (more than passport) multiple forms of ID ...finger printing...back ground check and a big long process to get, along with $132. Got a recent DWI, or past Drug charge or other spec of dirt on your record...prettty good chance you will be DENIED. These contain RFID like the new passports to transmitt all your personal data. See this from the news. Two men face charges after allegedly using fake TWIC ID cards to work at the Port of Fourchon, LA. The men, Ernesto Cordova, 25, and Roosevelt Amores, 32, were reportedly charged with illegal entry into critical infrastructure, in addition to invalid driver’s license charges after a security employee noticed several misspelled words on the fake TWIC cards. “It was a pretty good duplication,” Callais told the Houma Courier. “Only with the trained eye would you see there were some differences between that and a regular TWIC.” The men also are under suspicion for being the in U.S. illegally, the Courier newspaper also reported. According to the article, Harbor Police Chief Jon Callais said that the guard’s port training helped him zero in on the suspected workers. The Courier article didn’t say how many days the pair had used the fake TWIC cards to illegally enter the port, but the Port of Fourchon had been requiring TWIC cards for access for nearly a month at the time of arrest. Police said the men worked for the Danos and Curole offshore-service company. Callais told the New Orleans City Business publication in 2007 that Port Fourchon was vulnerable to terrorism at that time because it had “no cargo tracking system, no incoming vessel identification, no gates and no way to track workers.”
Eddie Fulmer Posted February 21, 2010 #2 Posted February 21, 2010 I had to have one to work at the refinery here in Tuscaloosa Alabama. Thankfully they paid for it. Don't know how well it works though.
Monty Posted February 21, 2010 #3 Posted February 21, 2010 I am all for it. We have them at work, for our high volume oil storage areas and where the barges offload the oil. It's a very limited access area. If it makes my workplace more secure, and may prevent an attack, then so be it.
Steve S Posted February 21, 2010 #4 Posted February 21, 2010 All the employees that work on any type of comercial vessel, towboats, supply boats, ships ect..., have had to get them. It is a true "knee jerk" reaction to the actions of terrorists that come in from other countries.. And to add insult to injury, all truck drivers, railroad workers, and airline employees will someday have to have them as well. I work on a towboat and a lot of our repair people have already bitten the bullet and gotten them. If they dont have one, they have to be escorted at all times that they are aboard the vessel. The rules that go along with this totally stupid law just goes on and on.. Personally I believe it is just the first step in requiring a nationwide ID program... :yikes:
Joopster55 Posted February 21, 2010 #5 Posted February 21, 2010 All of our US bound drivers are required to have the TWIC card, on top of the FAST card and/or passport to enter the US. They are to have the TWIC card because we pick up a lot of steel coils at US ports. On top of all this, they are also required to have steel coil securement training and proof with them at all times when transporting steel coils through the state of Alabama. All of this extra training and obtaining certificates is paid for by the company, but it takes time and valuable resources to complete. Both Canada and USA governments are making it very difficult for our truck drivers to earn a decent wage because of all of the new rules and regualtions that some fat ass sitting in our government buildings keep coming up with. There...got that off my chest...feel a bit better now.
CMIKE Posted February 21, 2010 Author #6 Posted February 21, 2010 I am all for it. We have them at work, for our high volume oil storage areas and where the barges offload the oil. It's a very limited access area. If it makes my workplace more secure, and may prevent an attack, then so be it. I agree...not really against it...pain in the butt maybe...and it is not a political thread either...this is part of anti-terror rule is part of the Maritime Transportation Security Act of 2002. Folks are gaining access to these areas with FAKE cards regularly...that are supposed to super secure, with what they claimed "could not be duplicated or reproduced to insure top security" I just believe this is a FAILED program that does nothing for security. There is one thing the Goverment should be responsible for...keep us safe from attack. IT IS NOT happening if anybody and their brother can get one of these Fake cards and go into these locations with a dangerous intent.
Steve S Posted February 21, 2010 #7 Posted February 21, 2010 Both Canada and USA governments are making it very difficult for our truck drivers to earn a decent wage because of all of the new rules and regualtions that some fat ass sitting in our government buildings keep coming up with. There...got that off my chest...feel a bit better now. :sign yeah that:
CMIKE Posted February 21, 2010 Author #8 Posted February 21, 2010 Personally I believe it is just the first step in requiring a nationwide ID program... :yikes: Hell they will just create a FAKE one of those also...so why would they bother. I don't think they care who is in our boarders...Friend or Foe.
IH Truck Guy Posted February 21, 2010 #9 Posted February 21, 2010 The TWIC card background check duplicates the Haz-Mat check. So pay twice for the same background check and finger printing, for credentials that expire at different times.. And then to top it off,some ports (Dundalk) will not honor the TWIC card unless you are pre-registered in their system and this has to be done ahead of time or you will need to come back another day... Last week,we just got word that all the NY. and NJ. ports are going to require their own special ID in addition to the TWIC card.. Great,more money out of my pocket...
DragonRider Posted February 21, 2010 #10 Posted February 21, 2010 I used to be at the Port of Fourchon, at least 3 times a month when I did courier work before moving to the Atlanta area. It was very easy to have access to any facility down there, you were never challenged or asked for id with the exception of the ship yards that always checked you at the gate, but all you needed was a bill of lading and you were in,without escort most times, anyone could have gotten in there and done a lot of damage, but those were different times, now you have to take precautions at just about any public place be it government or private enterprise. Its a shame how much of our freedoms have been sacrificed for safety...............but if it keeps us safe, I am all for it.
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