blueline Posted February 18, 2010 #1 Posted February 18, 2010 I know what the manual says about this. Stand bike upright (level), check that oil is halfway covering sight glass. I know thats not word for word. My question is how do you make this a one person operation? Right now I have to have one person level the bike while the other gets down to the level of the sight glass. Any other way?
The Marshal Posted February 18, 2010 #2 Posted February 18, 2010 That is the way I do it. Its too dangerous putting a block under the kickstand to level it, so if I had to do it by myself I would use the M/C Jack and level it that way. ~Bill
slick97spirit Posted February 18, 2010 #3 Posted February 18, 2010 I had this same question when I first got mine. Most people use blocks under the stand (I do sometimes with no problems), others buy an extendable mirror from any auto parts store. I've used both successfully. stay safe
pick Posted February 18, 2010 #4 Posted February 18, 2010 A mirror on a extending antena like rod bought in most any auto parts makes for easy checking of oil level?
gibvel Posted February 18, 2010 #5 Posted February 18, 2010 Or I've put a brick (the kind with 3 holes with the kickstand sitting in one of the holes) under the kickstand and it's still fairly stable. It's not completely upright so it will read just a hair low that way though.
Ponch Posted February 18, 2010 #6 Posted February 18, 2010 A mirror on a extending antena like rod bought in most any auto parts makes for easy checking of oil level? Ditto
SilvrT Posted February 18, 2010 #7 Posted February 18, 2010 I place a block of either 2, 2x4's or a 4x4 under the sidestand. I then yank up a bit on the right handlebar and hold that as I ease off the bike on the right side. With upward pressure on the right handlebar, I then place my left hand on the edge of the seat and apply pressure towards the left side of the bike as I bend down and check the sight glass... then reverse the process as I get back on the bike and then push out the wood block. I've done this so many times it's a breeze...but, if you're somewhere and don't have a block of wood that size.... ???? (maybe carry one with ya?)
Blackjack Posted February 18, 2010 #8 Posted February 18, 2010 I vote for the mirror on a stick. It's safe, it's easy, it only takes one, and there's no 850 pound compromise to consider... TERRY
Bummer Posted February 18, 2010 #9 Posted February 18, 2010 I prefer the mirror on a stick. The bricks/boards under the kickstand method scares me something awful.
SilvrT Posted February 18, 2010 #10 Posted February 18, 2010 I prefer the mirror on a stick. The bricks/boards under the kickstand method scares me something awful. I guess a lot of it depends on the individual, their self-confidence, physical ability/strength, etc, etc .... consider this... stand off your bike and roll it along the ground ... if you can do this with confidence, you should have the same level of confidence putting a couple 2x4's under the sidestand and getting off the bike on the right while still holding it steady. Unless the bike has been lowered or the shocks are sagging or something of that nature, the bike should be able to sit by itself with the 2x4's under the sidestand as the balance point is just a bit left of centre (at least on mine it is) and this can be assured and accomplished by pulling up on the right handlebar. as the saying goes... "try it ... you might like it" Having said the above, I do realize that folks with shorter legs and wider bod's than mine might not be able to accomplish such feats of bravery LOL And I do like the "mirror" method idea... just haven't gotten a "round toit"
Bummer Posted February 18, 2010 #11 Posted February 18, 2010 That sounds great all the way to the part where I'm on all fours with my head nearly on the ground looking at the sight glass. At least with me underneath it the fairing and bars wouldn't get all scuffed up.
Yammer Dan Posted February 18, 2010 #12 Posted February 18, 2010 A 1st Gen with a Center Stand makes it EASY!!
Kregerdoodle Posted February 18, 2010 #13 Posted February 18, 2010 Or just find you some " Dip Stick" to get down on there knees and look at it while you hold it....
coldinnd Posted February 18, 2010 #14 Posted February 18, 2010 I bought a telescoping mirror works excellent:missingtooth:
eusa1 Posted February 18, 2010 #15 Posted February 18, 2010 i purchased a nice chromed center stand and it cures lots of maint concerns mike
The Marshal Posted February 18, 2010 #16 Posted February 18, 2010 I guess a lot of it depends on the individual, their self-confidence, physical ability/strength, etc, etc .... consider this... ... "try it ... you might like it" SilvrT, I have done it before with my V* 1300, which is a lighter bike at 680 wet. However, the one time that when I got up and accidentally used my hand for leverage and *almost* pushed the bike over on its right side (I caught it as I sprang upright) convinced me that: A) the block-under-kickstand has some compromises B) I am clumsy at times. So now I just make the Purty Wife sit on the motorcycle and hold it upright. Easy, and fun to see her wrestle those bikes. ~Bill
blueline Posted February 18, 2010 Author #17 Posted February 18, 2010 I guess I need to go to Auto Zone an look for a mirrior on a stick. I wish Yamaha would go to dipsticks on future bikes.
SilvrT Posted February 18, 2010 #18 Posted February 18, 2010 SilvrT, I have done it before with my V* 1300, which is a lighter bike at 680 wet. However, the one time that when I got up and accidentally used my hand for leverage and *almost* pushed the bike over on its right side (I caught it as I sprang upright) convinced me that: A) the block-under-kickstand has some compromises B) I am clumsy at times. So now I just make the Purty Wife sit on the motorcycle and hold it upright. Easy, and fun to see her wrestle those bikes. ~Bill yeah... I do that too when we're out on the road and "clumsy" wasn't forgotten.... it was part of the "etc" I do agree that the blocks may not be the best method and the mirror is a great idea but when I'm at home and the bike is in the garage, I use the wooden block method. Maybe "when" I get a mirror, I will discontinue using the blocks.
atlm Posted February 18, 2010 #19 Posted February 18, 2010 Harbor Freight has mirrors on a stick (the extension kind, like a car antenna) for about $2. That said, I used to do the wood-under-kickstand method, but it always made me a bit nervous. So, now I attach the Carbon One adapter to the bike, and raise the jack just enough to level and support the bike without lifting it. I'll be using the same method to level the bike to sync the carbs.
cb1313 Posted February 18, 2010 #20 Posted February 18, 2010 The last time I had a oil change I went home and made a "dip stick". I parked the bike where I always park it, took a large plactic zip-tie, made a "t" and then checked the oil. I marked where the "full" level was and a few months later I made a mark when it was a pint low. The worst thing is I keep for getting to ckeck the oil, I also for to check the tires air pressure too............... Cb
emtdouggood Posted February 18, 2010 #21 Posted February 18, 2010 When i do work on my bike alone (whitch is all the time). I have cloth straps and hold the bike up with a come-a-long from the rafter of my garage. If you could see the pic better on my profile you can see the come along.Dont notice i did not clean the garage.But i do this so it is a little safer when i am doing things.
aspen60 Posted February 18, 2010 #22 Posted February 18, 2010 I know it seems like a stupid question but why wouldn't Yamaha just make it so the correct level in the sight glass is viewed when the bike is leaned over on the kickstand! I see the gear oil in the pumkin on the rear is filled and checked when level also, WTH, whose in charge here.
SilvrT Posted February 18, 2010 #23 Posted February 18, 2010 I know it seems like a stupid question but why wouldn't Yamaha just make it so the correct level in the sight glass is viewed when the bike is leaned over on the kickstand! I see the gear oil in the pumkin on the rear is filled and checked when level also, WTH, whose in charge here. The engine design was made back in the day when bikes had centre stands. Not likely they'd re-design the engine just for that....?
friesman Posted February 18, 2010 #24 Posted February 18, 2010 The engine design was made back in the day when bikes had centre stands. Not likely they'd re-design the engine just for that....? Why not get the oil at the right level when its upright, and then let it over onto the side stand, then mark it some way, (with a small mark from a felt marker or whatever. Brian
Squeeze Posted February 18, 2010 #25 Posted February 18, 2010 Why not get the oil at the right level when its upright, and then let it over onto the side stand, then mark it some way, (with a small mark from a felt marker or whatever. Brian Probably because you can't mark something anywhere which you don't see ?
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