BigBoyinMS Posted January 29, 2010 #26 Posted January 29, 2010 All I can say without getting in trouble, is that it is time wipe the slate clean and start all over. How did we get into such a state? You are completely right. So many of us would love to see the country go back to exactly what the Constitution spells out... and it would also terrify so many if we did!
mraf Posted January 29, 2010 #27 Posted January 29, 2010 You are completely right. So many of us would love to see the country go back to exactly what the Constitution spells out... and it would also terrify so many if we did! Where do you sign up?
Dano Posted January 29, 2010 #28 Posted January 29, 2010 At the polls in November. We can replace the entire House of Representatives and 1/3 of the Senate this coming November. Lets pick the small business guys who don't give a hoot about politics and just wanna get this country going back where it should be. Then in 2 years another 1/3 of the Senate then 2 years after that to finish the job. The time for "career" politicians should be over. It's up to us now to do this. JMHO Dan
The Marshal Posted January 29, 2010 #29 Posted January 29, 2010 The American Community Survey. Its legitimate. Official Website: http://www.census.gov/acs/www/ I read the FAQs, and it is Random, Yearly, and does have a increased fine from 100 - 5000 dollars for failure to respond correctly. Wow this is so not good. And the Gov't is all so worried about my medical records with that HIPA junk?!?
hig4s Posted January 29, 2010 #30 Posted January 29, 2010 Testing began in 1996, and the ACS program began producing test data in 2000, 2001, and 2002. The full program is expected to be implemented by 2010. The Department of Commerce has stated that those who receive a survey form are required to provide answers to a long list of questions about themselves and their families, including their profession, how much money they earn, their source of health insurance, their preferred mode of transportation to and from work, and the amount of money they pay for housing and utilities. Those who decline to answer these questions may receive follow-up phone calls and/or visits to their homes from Census Bureau personnel, and are threatened with prosecution and fines up to $5000. No person has ever been charged with a crime for refusing to answer the ACS survey, which several U.S. Representatives have challenged as unauthorized by the census act and violative of the Right to Financial Privacy Act. The Department of Commerce states that it is "not an enforcement agency."
gibvel Posted January 30, 2010 #31 Posted January 30, 2010 By the constitution (article 1 section 2) all we are required to answer is the number of people living in the house. It was established as an ENUMERATION of people living in certain areas so that the number of representatives in the government can be set for the number of people living in the place they represent. Enumeration means that they only need to know how many not all that other crap. All they're getting from me is how many people live here. The government has gotten too big for it's britches. However, we are at fault because we let it happen.
BMW Posted January 30, 2010 #32 Posted January 30, 2010 Something a friend sent me awhile ago. PLEASE SHARE THIS INFO WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS. Be cautious about scams when the Census is in your area. Some good information below: 2010 Census to Begin WARNING: 2010 Census Cautions from the Better Business Bureau Be Cautious About Giving Info to supposed Census Workers by Susan Johnson With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft. The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data. The big question is - how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? BBB offers the following advice: ** If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don't know into your home. ** Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. . Census. REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS.. While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Any one asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau. AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.. No Acorn worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau. Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the Census Bureau will not contact you by Email, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census. Never click on a link or open any attachments in an Email that are supposedly from the U.S. Census Bureau. PLEASE SHARE THIS INFO WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS.
Gray Ghost Posted January 30, 2010 #33 Posted January 30, 2010 In researching my family tree I look at a lot of census information. It might be interesting for those who are concerned about the amount of questions to see the information reported by family on previous census. On the 1790 Census, this information was reported on families: State, County, Head of household's name, # free white males 16 and over, # free white males under 16, # free white females, # all other free persons, # slaves. In 1840 the census sheet has: State; County; Head of household name; # free white persons broken down by male/female and various age ranges; # free colored persons, broken down by male/female and age ranges; # slaves broken down by male/female and age ranges; # of persons in household employed in 7 different occupations; # military service pensioners; # Deaf and Dumb, Blind and Insane White Persons; # Deaf and Dumb, Blind and Insane Colored Persons; and # in various schools. In 1870, the census sheet has: State; County; City; Name of every person in the place of abode; Age at last birthday; Male/Female; Color (White, Black, Mulatto, Chinese, or Indian); profession of males over 15; Value of Real Estate; Value of Personal Estate; State, Territory, or Country of birth; Month of birth for those born within census year; marriage date for those married within census year; ability to read; ability to write; whether deaf and dumb, blind, insane, idiotic, pauper, or convict; "Constitutional Relations" Male citizens of US 21 and above, Male citizens of US 21 and above where right to vote is denied on other grounds than rebellion of other crime. Some census asked more information, some even had special schedules for different groupings, such as surviving civil war veterans in the 1890 census.
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