tried to start the bike?

[oldgoat]

hi everyone well today i decided i would try to start the venture. it sat since ocotber. in my brother-inlaws garage i bought a brand new battery in spetember fot it. a gel type battery with out a hole for the sensor? well battery was fully charged still? i forgot the tender. well i turned on the switch. turned it over. it coughed and coughed. i turned the switch off waited. about 4 minutes tried it again. she caught and started to run? then just died? i did put seafoam in the bike. maybe way to much? 3/4 can to full tank. just before i stored it the bike was running rough. i posted about this before. i just never got a chance to go out and open it up with that seafoam in it. well thats not the main problem what scared me was after i was done trying to fire up the bike. there was gas under the bike? did i do something wrong? or was it because i kept turing the bike on and off did the fuel pump over fill the carbs.? i did push the bike to a new area in the garage and tried again about a hour latter. she fired on the forth try. ideld rough but did idle for about 12 minutes. i shut her down. do to a nervous bro -inlaw. hes been that way for 20 years LOL wont let me work in that garge.?? its a brick garage? except for the roof. what the hell am i going to burn down LOL. thats why oldgoat needs a job and to get a place with a garage. i hate idle hands. i could be out there. tinkering. but i also forgot i didnt install the new plugs yet. because i cant work in there now beacuse its stuffed wiith his stuff now. i will get that bike out in the spring. and work on it somewhere LOL.. or im going to see about a maintenace day that i can get to close by. but the bike needs more then a little maintenance i believe. i can run er down the road just wont idle? i need to get all the parts i got installed tires rotors brakes new gages mine work but water got in there at one time? new false tank well new to me. got radio and tape. and amp. mine work but buttons missing. so im replaceing. so when im done there will be free donor parts. like radio. missing buttons, false tank. broken tab for fuel door other wise a 5 out of ten. custom paint of a water fall on the tank. rotor covers starting to pit. and someone polished them with some wire thingy. lolks good at ten feet shiny but up close?? also have one extra throtle grip with cruise works great thought i need it bout one on ebay. only to find out my cruise wasent working due to a bent pulg connector. its working now. these will be free when the bike has the other parts installed.

[Jerry W]

Sounds to me like a float was sticking a little, this the gas under the bike. If it did not leak the second time you cranked it up, it probably is ok. If the weather is good, maybe take it for a little run until it smooths out. My bike sat for a couple of weeks a while back and would not idle until I took it out for a little run and put fresh gas in it. Ethanol is not friendly to carburators. You might even try some bg 44k, I have heard some really good things about that stuff.

[Kregerdoodle]

I don`t think you over did the seafoam, I run a full can with a full tank... sounds like the bowls just over filled..but I`m not much with Carbs. I think if you just change the plugs and get her out on the road where you can run the crap out of her she will be fine..then get your carbs cynced... it does make it nice to have your own place to work... like you said, even when its real cold its nice to be able to just tinker...

 

Kreg

 

 

 

hi everyone well today i decided i would try to start the venture. it sat since ocotber. in my brother-inlaws garage i bought a brand new battery in spetember fot it. a gel type battery with out a hole for the sensor? well battery was fully charged still? i forgot the tender. well i turned on the switch. turned it over. it coughed and coughed. i turned the switch off waited. about 4 minutes tried it again. she caught and started to run? then just died? i did put seafoam in the bike. maybe way to much? 3/4 can to full tank. just before i stored it the bike was running rough. i posted about this before. i just never got a chance to go out and open it up with that seafoam in it. well thats not the main problem what scared me was after i was done trying to fire up the bike. there was gas under the bike? did i do something wrong? or was it because i kept turing the bike on and off did the fuel pump over fill the carbs.? i did push the bike to a new area in the garage and tried again about a hour latter. she fired on the forth try. ideld rough but did idle for about 12 minutes. i shut her down. do to a nervous bro -inlaw. hes been that way for 20 years LOL wont let me work in that garge.?? its a brick garage? except for the roof. what the hell am i going to burn down LOL. thats why oldgoat needs a job and to get a place with a garage. i hate idle hands. i could be out there. tinkering. but i also forgot i didnt install the new plugs yet. because i cant work in there now beacuse its stuffed wiith his stuff now. i will get that bike out in the spring. and work on it somewhere LOL.. or im going to see about a maintenace day that i can get to close by. but the bike needs more then a little maintenance i believe. i can run er down the road just wont idle? i need to get all the parts i got installed tires rotors brakes new gages mine work but water got in there at one time? new false tank well new to me. got radio and tape. and amp. mine work but buttons missing. so im replaceing. so when im done there will be free donor parts. like radio. missing buttons, false tank. broken tab for fuel door other wise a 5 out of ten. custom paint of a water fall on the tank. rotor covers starting to pit. and someone polished them with some wire thingy. lolks good at ten feet shiny but up close?? also have one extra throtle grip with cruise works great thought i need it bout one on ebay. only to find out my cruise wasent working due to a bent pulg connector. its working now. these will be free when the bike has the other parts installed.

[BOO]

Like they said sounds like it might have had a float sticking a little bit. When you get a chance you probably could get it out on the road and run it for a few miles and things might clear up.

Not to much Sea Foam, at least it won't hurt anything.

Sounds like you will have a fine 2st Generation when you are through. They are nice bikes.

BOO

[Yammer Dan]

Just push her outside and crank it up for awhile to see what happens. Then go for a ride. You don't have to run it really hard but wind it out in the lower gears a few times.

[oldgoat]

good advice everyone but there is still snow on these country back roads. so takeing it out for a spin right now with bad brakes would scare the crap out of me LOL. but i got to (thinking.) that could be a bad thing? LOL. when changing the plugs as im low on cash and cant afford new wires and caps? do these caps screw out like old snowmobile ones use to? i use to snip about a 1/4 of the wire off if they where long enoug and replace the caps with new screw in ones? unless there is a wire upgrade for around 30 bucks any one knows of. and how do you reach the coils to install them? keep in mind the last person who owned this let this bike sit for like 2 years. i did get er running for a year and put 5ooo miles on her. before minor i hope problems poped up. so im thinking 5000 miles a plug change should have been done by me who knows how long them plugs been in that bike? my fault for loaning out my service manual to a jerk who never returned it. as i should have just sat down and went over that book and the bike. im going to say it i dont even know how to remove the side panels? looks like the passengers foot boards get in the way where the black parrt of the side covers are.. i do see the pull thing? but im afraid to pull and crack them. there is a hairline crack in one allready. but im going to tinker if i break it. i will somehow fix it. i just need to remove these plastics to get at them plugs. i can get to the fronts just fine but someone put on nice chrome on the side covers to cover the back plugs.. i have no idea why as im thinking that would put some heat there or maybe to stop heat from your leggs not sure. im going to snap some picks of the bike and see how i can load them here? as i cant even tell waht colour you would call this bike. you know you all are great pepole. and if things go well and i somehow get the cash i want to see about renting this baquet hall here in town. cost is 450. for a 4 hour night. this includes both of the parking lots. use to be a old a and p store. perfect for a maintenace day????

[eusa1]

old goat,

the idea that you should go out and run the whatever out of your bike could be the dumbest idea i've seen posted today...

the part where you said that fuel ran out from under the bike.... should put the brakes on running the bike untill you have made sure that there is no fuel mixed in with your engine oil.

yes the float may have only stuck a little bit?? or maybe a little bit too much?? if it sticks long enough to overflow untill fuel runs over into the crankcase and you take her for a spin or even just push it outside and let it run, you may destroy an engine... and even if the well minded folkes here were only trying to offer some help,, some free help can be very expensive... nope i don't know it all, nope i never said i did... my suggestion wont cost you a dime either..

if you see the oil level is higher, or smells like fuel..pitch it and pull the carbs.

i said it once before and i will offer it yet again.. find a warm spot to work on it down there and myself along with a few other members that i have talked to, would be glad to come down and give you a first hand, 1st or 2nd gen lesson in all your repair needs for the same price as the above advice. and no, don't change your plugs yet.

mike

[Yammer Dan]

The pull tabs for the side covers just slide down off the cover and the cover pulls out. The pull tabs do not come off with the cover. Have two pins on the top front of the covers you need to watch and a slot on the back that slides over a grommet on the frame.

[CrazyHorse]

First take the tank cover off. The pull tab is black rubber at the bottom of the side cover just above the metal engine side covers. The passanger floor boards have to be in the down position. I would then pull the side cover from the very rear of the cover where it conacts to the frame under the passanger seat so it pops out dont pull it hard. I would look then from the top of the cover towards the front and see where the black pin from the cover goes into the frame. I would put my hand in there and then I then would slightly pull up the side cover from the bottom so I can slide my hand up from the bottom towards the front of the cover close as I can to the second pin which is under the top front one. I would then pull with equal force with both hands to disconect the front pins. The cover should come off then. These pins get fragile the older they get so be careful.