BigG Posted January 14, 2010 #1 Posted January 14, 2010 So waddya think of this http://www.asylum.com/2010/01/13/pam-guenther-luis-santiago-florida-biker-pulled-over-for-wearing-a-gladiator-helmet/
RandyR Posted January 14, 2010 #2 Posted January 14, 2010 That cop is preparing to get 'officer of the month' for number of citations wrote when halloween gets here later in the year.
eazyduzzit Posted January 14, 2010 #3 Posted January 14, 2010 I think the cop should be reprimanded, That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
a1bummer Posted January 14, 2010 #4 Posted January 14, 2010 So wouldn't wearing a full-face helmet be just as illegal then?
Lone Eagle Posted January 15, 2010 #5 Posted January 15, 2010 Or a half or 3/4 :confused24:helmet with a neoprene mask?
Yammer Dan Posted January 15, 2010 #6 Posted January 15, 2010 So wouldn't wearing a full-face helmet be just as illegal then? Thats what I was thinking. There are some stupid laws on the books.
bald josh Posted January 15, 2010 #7 Posted January 15, 2010 Its Florida!!!....(sorry if you live there)
KB2RWW Posted January 15, 2010 #8 Posted January 15, 2010 (edited) The 2009 Florida Statutes Chapter 876 CRIMINAL ANARCHY, TREASON, AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER 876.12 Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way.--No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state. 876.155 Applicability; ss. 876.12-876.15.--The provisions of ss. 876.12-876.15 apply only if the person was wearing the mask, hood, or other device: (1) With the intent to deprive any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws or for the purpose of preventing the constituted authorities of this state or any subdivision thereof from, or hindering them in, giving or securing to all persons within this state the equal protection of the laws; (2) With the intent, by force or threat of force, to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person because of the person's exercise of any right secured by federal, state, or local law or to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from exercising any right secured by federal, state, or local law; (3) With the intent to intimidate, threaten, abuse, or harass any other person; or (4) While she or he was engaged in conduct that could reasonably lead to the institution of a civil or criminal proceeding against her or him, with the intent of avoiding identification in such a proceeding. 876.16 Sections 876.11-876.15; exemptions.--The following persons are exempted from the provisions of ss. 876.11-876.15: (1) Any person or persons wearing traditional holiday costumes; (2) Any person or persons engaged in trades and employment where a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer, or because of the nature of the occupation, trade, or profession; (3) Any person or persons using masks in theatrical productions, including use in Gasparilla celebrations and masquerade balls; (4) Persons wearing gas masks prescribed in emergency management drills and exercises. Yes it is against the law to protect your head when on a bike. I also see that it went into the law books in 1951. Edited January 15, 2010 by KB2RWW
KB2RWW Posted January 15, 2010 #10 Posted January 15, 2010 You would think 876.16 Sections 876.11-876.15; exemptions. (2) Any person or persons engaged in trades and employment where a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer, or because of the nature of the occupation, trade, or profession; My Trade/Occupation & Profession at that time is MC-Rider, I'm Exempt right?
bryan52577 Posted January 15, 2010 #11 Posted January 15, 2010 The 2009 Florida Statutes Chapter 876 CRIMINAL ANARCHY, TREASON, AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER 876.12 Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public way.--No person or persons over 16 years of age shall, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be or appear upon any lane, walk, alley, street, road, highway, or other public way in this state. 876.155 Applicability; ss. 876.12-876.15.--The provisions of ss. 876.12-876.15 apply only if the person was wearing the mask, hood, or other device: (1) With the intent to deprive any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws or for the purpose of preventing the constituted authorities of this state or any subdivision thereof from, or hindering them in, giving or securing to all persons within this state the equal protection of the laws; (2) With the intent, by force or threat of force, to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person because of the person's exercise of any right secured by federal, state, or local law or to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from exercising any right secured by federal, state, or local law; (3) With the intent to intimidate, threaten, abuse, or harass any other person; or (4) While she or he was engaged in conduct that could reasonably lead to the institution of a civil or criminal proceeding against her or him, with the intent of avoiding identification in such a proceeding. 876.16 Sections 876.11-876.15; exemptions.--The following persons are exempted from the provisions of ss. 876.11-876.15: (1) Any person or persons wearing traditional holiday costumes; (2) Any person or persons engaged in trades and employment where a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer, or because of the nature of the occupation, trade, or profession; (3) Any person or persons using masks in theatrical productions, including use in Gasparilla celebrations and masquerade balls; (4) Persons wearing gas masks prescribed in emergency management drills and exercises. Yes it is against the law to protect your head when on a bike. I also see that it went into the law books in 1951. I would say that according to this, any SAFETY helmet or mask would then be legal. Bryan
Smely Posted January 15, 2010 #12 Posted January 15, 2010 Getting off of the cop for just a moment.........Does Florida have a law about riding around looking like a DORK? Just asking:rotf:
spear Posted January 15, 2010 #13 Posted January 15, 2010 That proves it - THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS GONE MAD. MAD I SAY - DO YA HEAR ME? M-A-D!
Monsta Posted January 15, 2010 #14 Posted January 15, 2010 Getting off of the cop for just a moment.........Does Florida have a law about riding around looking like a DORK? Just asking:rotf: Best post yet!
Bummer Posted January 15, 2010 #15 Posted January 15, 2010 Getting off of the cop for just a moment.........Does Florida have a law about riding around looking like a DORK? Just asking:rotf: That proves it - THE ENTIRE WORLD HAS GONE MAD. MAD I SAY - DO YA HEAR ME? M-A-D! Best post yet! I dunno, Monsta, looks like a toss up between Smely and spear to me.
Hummingbird Posted January 15, 2010 #16 Posted January 15, 2010 It reads as if a full face helmet is against the law as well - look out crotch rockets My wife wears a 3/4 helmet with a full mirrored shield - I'm sure that there are antiquated laws still on the books in all of our states that put many of us in jeopardy of a ticket on a daily basis.
Squeeze Posted January 15, 2010 #17 Posted January 15, 2010 I'd fight to get my Money back and an Apology. All the Way up to the Supreme Court, if necessary.
naturbar Posted January 15, 2010 #18 Posted January 15, 2010 I'd fight to get my Money back and an Apology. All the Way up to the Supreme Court, if necessary. a wise person once told me to choose my battles......just sayin...! also not saying what went down is right....
Squeeze Posted January 15, 2010 #19 Posted January 15, 2010 a wise person once told me to choose my battles......just sayin...! also not saying what went down is right.... You're absolutely right, I'm totally with you. It's not wise to take such a Fight. But .... On the other Hand, this Deputy should make into Fox News, just because to show others likewise minded People that they're won't get through with such Actions. If all People with a somewhat normal Mindset(this of Course depends and is an Issue on it's own) let all these Things go, you know where will end end up ? Sad to say, but true ... In todays World ....
ediddy Posted January 15, 2010 #20 Posted January 15, 2010 Its easy to say you would take legal action all the way to the supreme court if necessary but do have a million or more dollars to pay attorney's fees for something insignificant?
KB2RWW Posted January 15, 2010 #21 Posted January 15, 2010 I'm sure that there are antiquated laws still on the books in all of our states that put many of us in jeopardy of a ticket on a daily basis. A few years ago my naber up the road had one of his horses stolen, the cops found the horse and the person's that took it and he took them to Cort for restitution. they and there loyer were shocked to learn that my naber was seeking the death penalty towards them, the town still has a law that allows you to hanging horse thief's and he was pushing for it real hard. in the end he got his horse back and they got 5 years in prison, the judge told them they wear lucky he was in a good mood other wise he'd allow it and they can try to fight it in a higher Court.
a1bummer Posted January 15, 2010 #22 Posted January 15, 2010 Getting off of the cop for just a moment.........Does Florida have a law about riding around looking like a DORK? Just asking:rotf: That did go through my head for a second too.
Sunrayman Posted January 15, 2010 #23 Posted January 15, 2010 When I was in Florida during the years of the helmut war litigation, I used to take note at all the recalcitrant riders on they're way to Daytona Beach Bike Week. Many had weird style helmuts, which the local police had to adjudicate legality enroute, but the winner one year was a guy with a huge Tina Turner wig flapping in the air! When the officer pulled him over for no helmut laws, the rider showed th police that he had GLUED a Tina Turner wig over a DOT, Snell Florida approved helmut! The cop was red faced, and had to let him go! I find it amusing that the local police have time to consider picking pepper out of fly**** when there is so much crime out there which requires them to wear MASKS to hide their identity when they make SWAT and Undercover raids on the bad guys. Overgrown boy scout mentality! Abuse of Police powers! The intent of that helmut wearer met none of the REASONS for the prohibition! Keep fighting for social freedoms or the police state we now live in will become unbearable! OOPS! That's a MASK!!!:12101:OOPS! OOPS!:sun:OOPS! OOPS! :Cool_cool36:OOPS!:whistling: Sunayman
GunnyButch Posted January 15, 2010 #24 Posted January 15, 2010 Looks like the guy got just what he wanted---a bunch of attention and stir some sh**. The deputy on the other hand could have intended to bring some attention to an outdated and dumb law still on the books. In either case it worked. The rider was given a warning so it didn't cost him anything. Abuse of power, get a grip.
Bigfoot Posted January 15, 2010 #25 Posted January 15, 2010 Oh great. Another cop bashing thread. I get tired of them on other sites and don't expect them on here but they pop up once in awhile.
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