New Garage..

[Seaking]

Oooh soon.. oh so soon.. I'll be moving into my new insulated 24x24 floor heated garage..

 

Someone had mentioned I shouldn't park the bike with the tires on the bare concrete floor as it may 'leech' the compounds out of the tires???

 

Once the builders have the mudding done on the drywall and the rest of the 20 amp services are connected, it's just a paint job and building a work bench to keep me busy this winter.. AHHHHHHHhhhh

[1 Canuck]

Great to have a heated garage for the winter climate. All you'll need now is, setting up a radio, chairs, a fridge for some wobbly pops and a TV to watch some hockey games?

[Hummingbird]

Oooh soon.. oh so soon.. I'll be moving into my new insulated 24x24 floor heated garage..

Once the builders have the mudding done on the drywall and the rest of the 20 amp services are connected, it's just a paint job and building a work bench to keep me busy this winter.. AHHHHHHHhhhh

 

I'm guessing you left out a zero with regard to the electrical service. I can understand it, I'd be excited to have a nice work area also.

[jlh3rd]

never heard of concrete leeching compounds from tires....i'd have to investigate that one.......it adds expense, but i'd coat the floor with an epoxy floor coating....best thing i did to my garage, course, mine's only a one car garage......

Edited November 14, 2009 by jlh3rd

[Jerry W]

I'm guessing you left out a zero with regard to the electrical service. I can understand it, I'd be excited to have a nice work area also.

 

He is probably refering to the amp size of the individual circuit breakers.

[dynodon]

Been storing cars and bikes in a concrete floor garage for 30+ years, new and very old tires alike. Never got a flat spot that didn't work its way out within a few miles, and never had any tires go bad. Keep them inflated correctly, keep tires away from strong electrical sources (ozone is bad for rubber) and use a proper tire dressing on the NON TREAD portion to keep them looking good and lasting a little longer.

 

Yea, I know some will say never use dressing on motorcycle tires, but if you wipe it on and don't let it run to the tread, and wipe it down with a dry cloth so there isn't any excess on the tire, you will be just fine. Of course keep it off anything that could possibly see pavement. And if you have any fears, then stay away from it.

 

(trying to cover all bases)

 

Oh also, batteries won't go dead from sitting on concrete either.

[Yammer Dan]

Insulated and Heated??:crying: Don't let Ugly hear you say that. I'm still moving Dirt!!

[Brake Pad]

I have outside carpet in my garage, both the bike & car, never touch the concrete floor

[BOO]

I have outside carpet in my garage, both the bike & car, never touch the concrete floor

 

Probably nothing less than 50 degrees either, I tell you, some people.

BOO

[Tombo]

The first thing I did before I moved into my new (20 years ago) house was seal the basement and garage concrete floors. Really keeps the dust down and makes them easy to keep clean.

[Patrick46]

The first thing I did before I moved into my new (20 years ago) house was seal the basement and garage concrete floors. Really keeps the dust down and makes them easy to keep clean.

 

Yup! Wish I had painted the floor when I moved into my 'big' shop 11 years ago.

I'm probably gonna do it this spring...but gotta move ALOTTA stuff outta the way first!

[TopV]

I don't have the comfort of a garage, but did manage to put up a 8x 12 shead this year. Although it has wood flooring 1 1/2 thick i was wondering how it would be if i topped it off with rubber flooring. Has anyone tried this?

 

Good Luck with the garage the foot print is almost the same as my house. LOL

[Skid]

There is nothing better then having a big garage to put your toys in. Mine is still work in progress, but I'll get it finished in time....

[Semi-retired]

Someone had mentioned I shouldn't park the bike with the tires on the bare concrete floor as it may 'leech' the compounds out of the tires???

 

I've heard many comments over the years about not leaving tires in direct contact with concrete during long periods of non-use. To confirm my thought that YES, it's a bad thing (I always put a small piece of tongue and groove flooring under mine)....a quick Google search turned up an intriguing document on a Bridgestone Truck Tire website where they responded to a writer posing the exact same question........see http://www.bridgestonetrucktires.com/us_eng/answers/doctor_maintenance.asp#1

 

 

"Thank you for contacting Bridgestone and allowing us to assist you.

First of all, regarding the effects of storage:

A cool, dry, sealed garage is your best condition for storage, however, it is realized that this is not often an available option. Concrete is not the tire enemy some people think it is.

We would recommend the following steps in storing a vehicle:

1. Make sure the floor / ground surface is free of any petroleum product contamination (Oil, grease, fuel, etc.) since petroleum products will attack rubber and can cause significant damage to compound characteristics.

2. Thoroughly clean your tires with soap and water.

3. Place a barrier such as plastic, cardboard, or plywood between the tires and the ground surface.

4. Cover your tires to block out direct sunlight and ultra violet rays.

5. Do not store the vehicle in close proximity to steam pipes, electrical generators or animal manure since these accelerate oxidation of the rubber.

6. Make sure your tires are fully inflated with air.

7. When the vehicle is ready to go back into service, inspect the tires for excessive cracking in both the sidewall and tread area and check all tire air pressures. Tires will normally lose about 2 PSI per month so you should expect to find the pressures lower than when you put the vehicle into storage. Re-inflate the tires to the correct air pressure before operation.

Now, about the effects of time:

Yes, rubber compound does slowly change over time, becoming "harder" as it ages. But unless we are talking years, this would be virtually undetectable. However; the most likely effect of storage will be:

1. Flat spotting of the tires from taking a 'set' while sitting in one position for an extended length of time. This 'set' may work itself out of the tires after being put back into operation, but not always. This, of course, would result in a vibration.

2. Tires have waxes and oils specially formulated to protect against ozone damage built into their rubber compounds. When the tire rotates and flexes, these waxes and oils are forced to the tire's surface and are thus able to protect the tire. When a tire is stationary, these waxes and oils are not coming to the surface and thus the tire is at greater risk of ozone damage.

3. Several days of non-use at a time is not nearly as detrimental to tires as long storage periods. The tires would still be operated often enough to avoid excessive 'set' and the waxes and oils are being forced to the tire's surface often enough to provide adequate protection against ozone.

Best regards, Tire Doctor"

 

That HAS to be the definitive answer on how to and how NOT to store your tires. Especially loved the "don't store your tires near cow poop" comment!!

 

Gettin ready for cold, Canadian winter! Come on, global warming!!!

Regards from up North.

Mike

[Beau-Kat]

Probably nothing less than 50 degrees either, I tell you, some people.

 

BOO

 

 

Yup! Living in the moderate temps of SC, I could even sleep outside 9 months outa the year...which is what my wife will have me doing:thumbdown: if I come home with that 2007 FJR1300 I've been eyeing 4-EVER!

[Mariner Fan]

During the winter I roll the bike out of the garage and start it up. I do this once a week. Seems to me that it solves all the problems with gas gumming up the carbs, battery running down, and any problems with the tires getting flat spots.

[Seaking]

Great to have a heated garage for the winter climate. All you'll need now is, setting up a radio, chairs, a fridge for some wobbly pops and a TV to watch some hockey games?

 

Gees man.. not so frikken loud!! The ol' lady might hear ya! It's for work work work and more work.. Not for fun at all.. none.. not at all..

[Seaking]

He is probably refering to the amp size of the individual circuit breakers.

 

That yes.. two wall plugs per wall, each a 20 amp fuse. Under ideal conditions, I can run 4 20 amp devices in the garage at once.. I had a 30 amp construction heater (draws 20A) in there yesterday to dry the mud on the gyprock and it didn't take long to heat and it held the heat for a long time.. Insulation's great lol

[Seaking]

Insulated and Heated?? Don't let Ugly hear you say that. I'm still moving Dirt!!

 

Hahaha.. I have my bike in there now, amongst the debris and dirt from the construction.. Ahh it REALLY looks nice in there.. Once I get my bench built and shelving up and the other bike in there, it'll be a beaut!

 

I have to keep it clean and tidy as well because it'll be an annex to my photo studio.. I can only get small bikes into the studio downtown but the larger bikes will come up here to the house =)

[Guest tx2sturgis]

 

Oh also, batteries won't go dead from sitting on concrete either.

 

That depends on what kind of battery and how long its 'stored'.

 

Not trying to hijack the thread, but leaving a flooded lead acid battery immobile on a cold concrete floor for long periods of time will cause the electrolyte to 'stratify'...meaning it sets up in layers, because the bottom of the battery is much colder than the top. Lighter components of the fluid settle upwards, heavier components settle downwards, and you end up with stationary gas bubbles forming on the plates, and within the gas bubbles, the lead plates will sulfate.

 

This is why long-term storage, (and those stored on a trickle charger are not immune from this) of flooded lead acid batteries requires what is called 'equalization', which is just a fancy name for periodically overcharging the battery to the point that it gasses, and stirs the electrolyte with the movement of the gas bubbles in the electrolyte.

 

AGM and gel batteries have much less tendency to stratify.

 

Either way, it IS a good idea to place a long term stored battery on a shelf or at least a block of wood.

 

Some myths turn out to be fact.

 

 

[Marcarl]

So you too eh??? but where are the pictures???? and drywall, that'll be nice, are you painting the walls first???? and oh ya, where are the pictures????

[Seaking]

So you too eh??? but where are the pictures???? and drywall, that'll be nice, are you painting the walls first???? and oh ya, where are the pictures????

 

Eh? Too busy riding in this 12'C weather, byes.. take photos? Why, and make you jealous? Or worse, make it easier for you to find me for winter storage? lolol

 

I have some pics but have to get some pages made up and posted to my server, send you the addy.. Unfortunately the paying clients get first attention to the photography and server time.. sigh..

 

But I'll post you a link for the pics.