What Happened to "PG Rating" ???

[SilvrT]

Doesn't PG mean no one under 17 admitted. Maybe we should change it to G rated if you want your 6 year old grandaughter to be able to read it.

 

No, that's R for Restricted.

 

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Association_of_America_film_rating_system[/ame]

[kenw]

I for one lke the idea of running a strict pg one the web site! This is one of the few places in our lives where we are not assulted by adult c**p and we can feel free to express ourselves as adults--- my hats off to our moderatoers for doing a great job and keep up the good work!!!

[BigBoyinMS]

I for one lke the idea of running a strict pg one the web site! This is one of the few places in our lives where we are not assulted by adult c**p and we can feel free to express ourselves as adults--- my hats off to our moderatoers for doing a great job and keep up the good work!!!

 

I'm with you on that. I'm far from a "G" rated guy but I definitely enjoy the site more without having to read some of the stuff that I have to hear on a daily basis. To tell the truth, I dislike most of the bike mags anymore. All the half nekkid girls just detract from what I bought the magazine for... and I like half nekkid girls!

And all the words have a meaning and a "force" behind them that society, not the individual, gives them although some individuals can be more comfortable with them than others. To use an analogy, I would rather have a tap on the shoulder to get my attention than a slap upside the head.

Just my nickels worth.

[Dragonslayer]

PG means Parental Guidance .... meaning it's up to the parent if a child should view/read the material... so that leaves the decision "to post or not to post" up to each individual's interpretation... then it's up to Don and the moderator's to set the standard and dump what is not acceptable (according to them) and we stand by their decision.

 

am I right or am I wrong?

My opinion is as an adult or parent you see something that you do not feel appropiate for your child to read. Don't let them read it. I feel that alot of TV is moralely reprehensible. But, I have the choice to turn the TV off or turning the channel. If I had small children I would use the programable parental guidance settings on the TV to insure they did not view. I have a problem with adults deciding what is suitable for other adults to view.

[Sideoftheroad]

Gees, guess I need to explore the site more often. I didn't even know there was a joke section. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

[SilvrT]

My opinion is as an adult or parent you see something that you do not feel appropiate for your child to read. Don't let them read it. I feel that alot of TV is moralely reprehensible. But, I have the choice to turn the TV off or turning the channel. If I had small children I would use the programable parental guidance settings on the TV to insure they did not view. I have a problem with adults deciding what is suitable for other adults to view.

 

For the most part, I am in agreement but I think the issue on this site is ... that it is quite easy for someone's child to read these posts without the parent knowing it ... so, keeping the posts "clean" helps to keep the crap from their eyes...at least on here. The problem is that there is so much "openness" in the world today, anything "we" try and keep from our kids has probably already been seen by them elsewhere. Well, at least we have the ability to try and set an example...something I'm not necessarilly so good at with kids...but I'm working on it.

[Guest tx2sturgis]

Gees, guess I need to explore the site more often. I didn't even know there was a joke section. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

 

Me neither...and if I ever 'ventured' into the joke section, I'd be ready to read some off-color stuff.

 

I have nothing against sexual references, but that's not why I participate in the website. I do so for the sharing of technical info primarily....and ride experiences second...and the personal issues and jokes are WAY down the list of why I'm here.

 

That said, I dont mind the occasional 'cuss' word in a post, to make a point. These words are nothing that the average 6 year old hasnt heard at home from day one.

[LilBeaver]

I respect your views and opinions and now I will respectfully offer mine.

 

While I am all for free speech and everything AND personal responsibility (ie. don't like it turn it off, don't look, etc. Part of which includes mutual respect of others). A forum rule/guideline of "lets keep it family friendly" hardly seems out of line. In my opinion, it is a matter of courtesy and respect of the collective membership that we all stick to the same guidelines.

I do not think that any of the recent posts that were questionable were way out of line. Some were a little to rich for my taste, so I simply clicked the little back button and moved on to the next one. The fact that it is only once and a while that something goes up, I find very refreshing.

I have been on some other forums/discussion boards that I no longer participate in (or even bother surfing to) because the content has degraded SO much that it was worthless to go back to since darn near every post was just total trash. Whether it was people bashing other people, groups, or discussions about topics that I felt should happen behind closed doors - if they happen at all.

Quite frankly I find this group to be a terrific for anumber of reasons. Obviously there is a lot of great technical information, riding tips, riding information, and overall great people. But also, the fact that we seem to be able to have actual discussions covering a very wide variety of topics on here, I greatly enjoy. Many are bike related, and some are not. I certainly hope that we can continue to do so.

 

Respectuflly,

- Rick

My opinion is as an adult or parent you see something that you do not feel appropiate for your child to read. Don't let them read it. I feel that alot of TV is moralely reprehensible. But, I have the choice to turn the TV off or turning the channel. If I had small children I would use the programable parental guidance settings on the TV to insure they did not view. I have a problem with adults deciding what is suitable for other adults to view.

 

For the most part, I am in agreement but I think the issue on this site is ... that it is quite easy for someone's child to read these posts without the parent knowing it ... so, keeping the posts "clean" helps to keep the crap from their eyes...at least on here. The problem is that there is so much "openness" in the world today, anything "we" try and keep from our kids has probably already been seen by them elsewhere. Well, at least we have the ability to try and set an example...something I'm not necessarilly so good at with kids...but I'm working on it.

Edited November 11, 2009 by LilBeaver

[SilvrT]

Well!!!!! ... seems like this thread has turned into quite an interesting discussion about a somewhat touchy subject ... much more so than I anticipated when I made the first post. It's been a very interesting read so far....and nobody has gotten their shirt in a knot....yet (j/k)

[mraf]

Very interesting. Everyone has their own opinions about what is PG and what isn't. I have to agree that this site is what it is because of the moderation of the members to know where to tow the line on all aspects of getting their point across. The only place on here that comes close to borderline content is the jokes section. But as has been said jokes are jokes if there is a problem, I'm sure the moderators are on top of the worst ones. Don and the moderators have done a excellent job in keeping this site from self destructing. If it wasn't so we wouldn't keep coming back day after day. Besides who else could put up with all my crap.

[dynodon]

There was a listserve I was on (and still am) that had rules similar to this one. When some people decided to be potty mouth in a big way, the owner of the list asked them to tone it down in a nice way, and got blasted. He then nuked them off the list. They started another list that is all cussing and sickness, gay bashing and jokes about women. Not a nice place to be, but at least that is what it was started to be, so I guess that is fine for them.

 

As far as this site, it has rules, when you join you accept those rules, and the owner of the list has the right to run it the way they want. One time I used a very minor word that isn't really cussing, but was on the edge, and I was asked to change it. My note wasn't deleted, I changed the word and wasn't upset about it.

 

As for what is offensive, I just keep asking myself and telling others that may not understand this: Would you want someone to talk that way to your baby sister, your mother, your grandmother, your priest/minister? I know there are some people that have way different values from most Americans and they would say pretty much anything to that list of people, but I think most of us can relate to what I meant!

[Dmnordin]

Here's where I'm at on this - I prefer not to read dirty jokes because I would rather think about other things than sex all the time, and when I do read a dirty joke, it sticks in my mind real good for a long time. I find that if I am not thinking about those kinds of things, it's much easier for me to be positive & focused on working hard & getting through each day in a better state, so this ends up being one of my more successful "coping with life mechanisms". Other little things, like riding my Venture & frequenting this site help, so I very much appreciate this site, as well as other web sites that are family friendly. I also thank everyone for not filling their posts with cussing & dropping the f-bomb. (I know, I'm very conservative) I used to frequent a Bipolar web site, and found much support there, but eventually stopped going there because of the language & dirty talk. One big focus for me the last several years has been to improve my relationship with my wife (just had our 25th anniversary). For a lot of years she put up with a tremendous amount of crap from me which put plenty of strain on our relationship over time. I'm trying to do what I can to repair what I broke, and a large part of this includes my being more positive, consistently working hard, and, most of all, having my heart & mind at a much better place. This is why it's important for me, so, thank you every one for being great people! Doug

[dynodon]

Doug, Note my story above where I was asked to take out an offensive word? Well, you just said it: CR_P. !

 

Yea, not very offensive, but the moderator asked me to remove it and I did. Maybe they have loosened up a little, or maybe you will get called on it!

I won't tell though!

[a1bummer]

Well!!!!! ... seems like this thread has turned into quite an interesting discussion about a somewhat touchy subject ... much more so than I anticipated when I made the first post. It's been a very interesting read so far....and nobody has gotten their shirt in a knot....yet (j/k)

 

Isn't life much nicer when people can debate on something and not get all childish?

[Dragonslayer]

For the most part, I am in agreement but I think the issue on this site is ... that it is quite easy for someone's child to read these posts without the parent knowing it ... so, keeping the posts "clean" helps to keep the crap from their eyes...at least on here. The problem is that there is so much "openness" in the world today, anything "we" try and keep from our kids has probably already been seen by them elsewhere. Well, at least we have the ability to try and set an example...something I'm not necessarilly so good at with kids...but I'm working on it.

I'm Offended by that word:Im not listening to:moon: Edited November 11, 2009 by Dragonslayer

[Jerry W]

Isn't life much nicer when people can debate on something and not get all childish?

 

It will get there.

[Yammer Dan]

He has been way too busy, to get on here & stir things up, thus he has been "pretty good"...........

 

This good enough for you Dan???

 

 

 

Yep" Pretty Good" means he ain't been here!!

[Patrick46]

....we are bikers after all

 

Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I HATE that word!!!

[Yammer Dan]

Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I HATE that word!!!

 

 

Wjhat do you ride?? I ride a Scooter so I'm just Scooter trash!!!

[Godlover]

I have enjoyed this discussion and appreciate everyone's thoughts. The one thing I have enjoyed about Venturerider is that it is a pretty clean site. It is hard to define PG. My wife and I are both pastors and we slightly disagree on this subject. She actually has a tendency to say a few words I won't use! I am thankful to the moderators who do their best to monitor what is posted. Each Sunday I start my sermon with a joke so I have visited the joke forum often. I would venture that 80 to 90% of the jokes I could not use in church. That says something about the content. I'm no prude but can't we find some new jokes I can use on a Sunday morning? Perhaps what offends me most are many jokes that have to do with unfaithfulness. In my work I see the hurt and damage done when one mate cheats on another and it effects the whole family. However, I don't expect everyone here to have the same values I hold dear. Again - we all need to thank our moderators for what they do. That's my two cents worth.

[stardbog]

There is notin' wrong if Yammer Dan can't sleep..... there was some nice suggestions :Avatars_Gee_George:

[Monty]

Since we have both clean and dirty people here.... and:buttkick:,

 

How about we have a clean joke section, and a passworded "other" joke section. That way, children can never read the off-color jokes.

 

 

Compromise and moderation are very healthy things.

[SilvrT]

Compromise and moderation are very healthy things.

 

oh yeah???... I compromised the moderation of my Rum & Coke intake the other evening and it sure didn't leave me feeling very healthy! :rotf:

[Yammer Dan]

I think you would be surprised how many here claim the same values as you do. My father was a Nazarene Minister so I have no excuse. I know what should be but just am not perfect.

I'm sure we can come up with some jokes for you to use.