Goofeychuck Posted October 27, 2009 #1 Posted October 27, 2009 How much wining noise should I get at 65 mph???
Sailor Posted October 27, 2009 #2 Posted October 27, 2009 I get quite a bit, but after a while she quiets down. It is the hammering on the helmet when I get up to 85 that is really annoying.
SilvrT Posted October 27, 2009 #3 Posted October 27, 2009 I get quite a bit, but after a while she quiets down. It is the hammering on the helmet when I get up to 85 that is really annoying. Maybe ya'll need to replace that "item"... To answer the question tho... at 65mph (104.6 kmh) I get very little in 5th and none in 4th. Below 100 in 5th and I can hear it but it's not too bad.
FreezyRider Posted October 27, 2009 #4 Posted October 27, 2009 Prior to changing my clutch basket to the I-basket, I could not stand to run at 65 (indicated), which was actually 60 after correcting the speedo error. It drove me nuts. Unfortunately, 60-62 is where I usually cruise on 2-lane roads. So, I always ended up running in 4th just so I didn't have to hear the scream. After changing the basket, I have very very little whine above 60 in 5th. None at all at 65-70 (at least I can't hear it with my helmet on). For me, it was worth the time and money to change baskets. Others have reported varying degrees of success though. Might want to give MotorKote a try....it very well could help.
jemorrisonjr Posted October 27, 2009 #5 Posted October 27, 2009 When I get tired of the whining I just leave her home.... Kidding aside, there are many fixes some work some dont... Some just cover the noise. But the way the gears are cut is the reason they whine like they do... I say get louder pipes..........
Goofeychuck Posted October 27, 2009 Author #6 Posted October 27, 2009 where can you get motorkote and how much do you use?
RandyR Posted October 27, 2009 #7 Posted October 27, 2009 I'd consider what you're doing carefully if you choose to use any additive in the oil. The wet clutch runs in the same oil as the engine and gears.
LilBeaver Posted October 27, 2009 #8 Posted October 27, 2009 It would seem that not all whines are created equal. Between 50 and 65 in 5th Mine is really bad but it gets quieter as speed increases. Once I get to around 65 it is barely audible in comparison to the engine noise, exhaust noise (OEM exhaust) and the wind. Anything above 70 or so, I cannot really hear it at all. I deal with it by not shifting into 5th until I'm above 65 or 70 or so.
LilBeaver Posted October 27, 2009 #9 Posted October 27, 2009 I get quite a bit, but after a while she quiets down. It is the hammering on the helmet when I get up to 85 that is really annoying. Yea. I solved the helmet hammering by installing helmet headsets. Unfortunately the whine is worse than ever unless I set the ol' IC to 0... But then the dreaded knocking comes back.
FreezyRider Posted October 27, 2009 #10 Posted October 27, 2009 where can you get motorkote and how much do you use? Might want to start reading here: http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=39828&highlight=motorkote Despite all the dire warnings about additives, I have not seen any proof whatsoever that MotorKote has any negative effects on a wet clutch system. And, the folks who make it assured me that it was safe for use in all motorcycles. Of course, they have a vested interest in selling it too. You can order it directly from them: http://www.motorkote.com I'm not affiliated with them at all, just someone who has had great experiences with the product.
Thistledown Posted October 27, 2009 #11 Posted October 27, 2009 not to bash BMW, but the only whine I here is when I ride behind a BMW. I hear all about transmission whine on this site but the whine from our RSV is nothing compare to he BMW
SilvrT Posted October 27, 2009 #12 Posted October 27, 2009 not to bash BMW, but the only whine I here is when I ride behind a BMW. I hear all about transmission whine on this site but the whine from our RSV is nothing compare to he BMW BMW = Big Motorcycle (that) Whines ...
KiteSquid Posted October 27, 2009 #13 Posted October 27, 2009 How much wining noise should I get at 65 mph??? Humor on: None, if you stop for doughnuts......... Hurmor off: Where do you think it is comming from??? Engine/trans Driveshaft Front tire Rear tire Final Drive Passanger seat.....
Sailor Posted October 28, 2009 #14 Posted October 28, 2009 I complained about the whine until I talked to a friend who rode a Triumph. Man! We got nothing to whine about.
cruisingm92 Posted October 28, 2009 #15 Posted October 28, 2009 just returned from a Yamaha dealer...had the clutch basket replaced on my '05 midnight venture, Man what a difference, my scooter whined like a democrat on fox news.. like a different bike now !! I'm a new member and really appreciate the info here !! Thanks guys !!
Kregerdoodle Posted October 29, 2009 #16 Posted October 29, 2009 Mine doesn`t whine......... It SCREAMS............it is out of warranty so I`ll have to tough it out till I come up with what ever they want for the basket, any one know how much they run??
Yamaman Posted October 29, 2009 #17 Posted October 29, 2009 Mine doesn`t whine......... It SCREAMS............it is out of warranty so I`ll have to tough it out till I come up with what ever they want for the basket, any one know how much they run?? I really need to get together with some of you other guys here in Houston and see what you're talking about. Mine makes more of a whoooshing or whistling sound at certain rpms, but never enough that it bothers me terribly. As others have mentioned, it seems to be around 60-65 on the speedo in 5th. But then again, my wife claims that I'm going deaf, so maybe it's there but I just don't hear it...
Kregerdoodle Posted October 29, 2009 #18 Posted October 29, 2009 myself and Ponch traded bikes last week for about 20miles, I had gotten used to mine until I rode his, his hardly makes a sound, he even commented on my beast, kind of like stepping on a cats tail...LOL give me a shout some time yama, I would like to meet up with you... Kreg
jfoster Posted October 29, 2009 #19 Posted October 29, 2009 If you do not wear earplugs you may want to try these. I got a set of reusable earplugs from Earplugsuperstore.com, click on the link for motorcycles, they're called Quietear reusable earplugs. They DO NOT block a lot noise like most earplugs, but they totally eliminate the high pitch whine from the clutch basket. The only downside that I've found is they increase low pitch sounds from the tires. For those that wear earplugs, I wouldn't recommend them. They are bout $10 for one set.
FreezyRider Posted October 29, 2009 #20 Posted October 29, 2009 Mine doesn`t whine......... It SCREAMS............it is out of warranty so I`ll have to tough it out till I come up with what ever they want for the basket, any one know how much they run?? I got mine from http://www.partshark.com and it was about $265 delivered.
Kregerdoodle Posted October 29, 2009 #21 Posted October 29, 2009 Ok, How do you tell that you received an "I" Basket?? are they stamped some where?? has any one compared there original to an I basket to see the diference?? or is it even visable?? I got mine from http://www.partshark.com and it was about $265 delivered.
FreezyRider Posted October 29, 2009 #22 Posted October 29, 2009 Ok, How do you tell that you received an "I" Basket?? are they stamped some where?? has any one compared there original to an I basket to see the diference?? or is it even visable?? It's engraved on the back. Other than the engraving there is no visible difference. Sure is an audible difference on mine though.
Yamaman Posted October 30, 2009 #23 Posted October 30, 2009 myself and Ponch traded bikes last week for about 20miles, I had gotten used to mine until I rode his, his hardly makes a sound, he even commented on my beast, kind of like stepping on a cats tail...LOL give me a shout some time yama, I would like to meet up with you... Kreg Sounds good. Now that I'm back on the road after she sat in the garage for nearly a year, I'm always looking for an excuse to get out and go. Are you the one that mentioned the automotive store in Waller that sells 44K? Now that my carbs are clean I was thinking of running over that way to pick up a can to keep them that way. Is FM 1488 from the Woodlands a decent road to ride, or just a lot of stop lights?
Kregerdoodle Posted October 30, 2009 #24 Posted October 30, 2009 That was probably Gunboat that mentioned the 44K, but the A-Line auto parts store in Waller sells it. 1488 not all that great from I45 to Magnolia, Magnolia on to Hempstead is not bad, there are some real nice 90degree twisties out by feildStore community.. Looks like this week end is going to be great, if you get out this way, give me a call 281-802-6772 =Cell Kreg Sounds good. Now that I'm back on the road after she sat in the garage for nearly a year, I'm always looking for an excuse to get out and go. Are you the one that mentioned the automotive store in Waller that sells 44K? Now that my carbs are clean I was thinking of running over that way to pick up a can to keep them that way. Is FM 1488 from the Woodlands a decent road to ride, or just a lot of stop lights?
Ponch Posted October 30, 2009 #25 Posted October 30, 2009 Yamaman, depending on the time of day you're going, 1488 can be miserable. It's a parking lot at the evening rush hour traffic. Give me a call. I'd be happy to ride over to Waller with you. I'm in Tomball. 832-622-0918 Oh yeah, and about Kreg's screamer, IT'S PRETTY LOUD! My understanding of the clutch basket upgrade is that you need the next letter size up from the one that's in your bike. Say you have a "C" basket, you need a "D". I really don't know anything about the differences in the baskets or why some are noisier than others, but here's an interesting article about the subject. from [ame=http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?p=293139]http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?p=293139[/ame] Guys, Yes a V-Max clutch basket will work in a RSV or RSTD (even any of the 1st gens). However like I have pointed out in the past, it depends on which basket (primary driven gear) you have in your bike now. In fact I did this myself when I rebuilt my 93 and found that my Barnett fiber plates had been eaten up by the basket and destroyed it. But it wasn't a big thing because I had a V-Max bottom end laying there that I had taken the heads off and put on the 93. Since the basket looked good, I wend ahead and finished assembling it with the V-Max basket. And to my surprise when I took her out on the maiden voyage, I now had a loud chirper. Turns out that I had replaced a "G" basket with a "F". I'll cut this story short and get to the point, where you really need to see which gear you have in your bike now. Just remove the basket and look at the alpha character hand etched on the back side of the gear. If you have an "F" gear, it most likely can be replaced and cured by a looser "G" gear. Hope this helps, Rick [ame=http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?p=292323#post292323]I basket no good!!!!! - Page 2 - VentureRider.Org[/ame] Jack, I really think that the "I" basket is being used as a cure-all for any primary gear whine. However it's my experience that the "I" basket (aka Primary Driven Gear) will only cure the problem when the bike currently has a "H" basket in it. I have cured a bike with a "F" basket by replacing it with a "G" basket. If I were you I would check with the dealer that did the change and see which basket came out of it. There will be an alpha character hand etched on the back side of the gear, not anything stamped on the gear. And I'm thinking that they should have the basket setting on a shelf. The problem with checking which gear you have is that you have to completely take the basket out to see the backside of the gear. Good luck, Rick
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