warthogcrewchief Posted February 3, 2010 #26 Posted February 3, 2010 That's all good. I think I'll try and jump 1 & 7, as listed in my diagram and see if that works. I would love to find an old non-operational amplifier/intercom control panel and dissect the cable plug to see what colored wires leads to which plug... that would be great, but mine still works.
warthogcrewchief Posted February 3, 2010 #27 Posted February 3, 2010 I found my notes and they had the pinout of the DIN connector that goes into the cassette deck. If you want to leave the connector on your cable you can purchase an 8 pin DIN female connector from NKCelectronics.com--the stock # is CON-0008. The pin location is for the cassette deck socket and the back side (where you solder the wires) of the connector. If you look into the plug, remember the rotation is reversed. The pins are numbered--verify that you are using the correct pin by looking at the numbers. Frank D. After looking at Frank's diagram, it is right on the money (a mirror image) of what I have. I believe the 262 degree (standard microphone 8-pin) connector should work for the bike. The only questions I have are: Has anyone figured out what the green wire (pin 5) and yellow wire (pin 3) wire do? Does the black ground wire (pin 2) need to be connected to anything? What is pin 8 used for?
mbrood Posted February 5, 2010 #28 Posted February 5, 2010 After reviewing actual cables from other bikes, I'm satisfied that Yamaha uses the below pinout and will be revising my MP3 adapter drawing. The physical connections will still be the same but the pin number assignments will change to reflect the Yamaha cable. If anybody figures out what 1, 4 and 8 are for, please let me know. http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/radio tray.jpg
Freebird Posted February 5, 2010 #29 Posted February 5, 2010 Does this article in the tech library help at all? http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=499
warthogcrewchief Posted February 6, 2010 #30 Posted February 6, 2010 I looked at the pin-out on the other link, and it doesn't seem to help as it is applied for the 5-pin (CB and/or comm headset). If you want to keep the wiring harness intact, as I do, I found a way to do so. I found an 8-pin DIN Jack (female side). It is any 8-pin DIN 262 degree style plug. This is where I purchased mine from: http://www.showmecables.com/viewItem.asp?idProduct=1518 There are no special tools (like pin socket crimps). These handles have leads on the back that allow you to solder each wire into place. I'll add photos as I get more of the components in the mail. I'm waiting for a 3PDT switch and an LED to indicate when the MP3 input is switched on.
elmicko Posted February 13, 2010 #31 Posted February 13, 2010 OK, I'm thinking about another project to get mp3 into my radio. One question, does the cassette deck automatically turn on when you put in a cassette, or is there a switch on the radio that activates it?
frankd Posted February 14, 2010 #32 Posted February 14, 2010 It switches to cassette when you insert a cassette. Frank D
warthogcrewchief Posted February 16, 2010 #33 Posted February 16, 2010 If you're looking to replace the cassette deck with an MP3 input, I would recommend not using an 8-pin mini din connector. The pin-outs listed in this thread seem correct, but for some reason, I didn't get great sound until I hardwired everything (not using the 8-pin connector). I even created a nifty little "storage box" with a hinged lid that is held closed with a magnetic push latch. I'm not done with the box yet, but when I am, I'll drill out the holes for the MP3 wire, the switch, and a 12v power source. Photos to come...
elmicko Posted February 26, 2010 #34 Posted February 26, 2010 I found my notes and they had the pinout of the DIN connector that goes into the cassette deck. If you want to leave the connector on your cable you can purchase an 8 pin DIN female connector from NKCelectronics.com--the stock # is CON-0008. The pin location is for the cassette deck socket and the back side (where you solder the wires) of the connector. If you look into the plug, remember the rotation is reversed. The pins are numbered--verify that you are using the correct pin by looking at the numbers. Frank D. One word of caution, I just ordered this connector from NKCeletronics and ordered stock # CON-008. They sent me a "male" connector with pins instead of the "female" connector with the sockets that is needed for this. I emailed the company and they said that the only sell "male" connectors and maybe the ad was misleading. I emailed them back to see what we could do about the situation and now they won't respond. The up side is these connectors are cheap and I was able to get the right one locally.
warthogcrewchief Posted February 26, 2010 #35 Posted February 26, 2010 (edited) I tried using the 8-pin min-din plug and kept having issues with the sound being VERY quiet. I go frustrated and just cut off the stupid thing and hard-wired in the switch and MP3 input plug. It works great! I got some plastic from my local hobby store and made a little storage area where the tape deck used to be. I got some small brass hinges from the local hardware store and installed a door panel. I also found a magnetic push latch and cut a hole into the side of the box the shape of the latch so that I could keep more room for my MP3 player and 12v power supply. I have it wired so that I can still remove the radio module... with the exception of the 12v marine-grade outlet. I just have to disconnect the female spade connectors on the backside. I'll add photos as soon as they're uploaded to my photo storage site. EDIT: Photos added http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/warthogcrewchief/100_0952.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/warthogcrewchief/100_0955.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/warthogcrewchief/100_0956.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b160/warthogcrewchief/100_0957.jpg Edited February 26, 2010 by warthogcrewchief
iridiobob Posted April 15, 2015 #36 Posted April 15, 2015 thank you for the info i found on my 1983 VR that pins 6 & 7 were the cassette bypass on the radio cable side of the pic you have put up here is not right when you show the two cables the numbers should be backwards on the one on the left i know it is a old post but some of us need things clearified here is a PDF that is more simple Cassette bypass with parts.pdf
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