indydog Posted July 24, 2009 #1 Posted July 24, 2009 Rider Magazine reports on the test of Victory Vision, Kawasaki Voyager, HD Ultra and Star Venture. The results are here http://www.ridermagazine.com/output.cfm?id=2226349 Makes me proud to own a Venture.....now all those HD guys can go jump in a lake.
SilvrT Posted July 24, 2009 #2 Posted July 24, 2009 Rider Magazine reports on the test of Victory Vision, Kawasaki Voyager, HD Ultra and Star Venture. The results are here http://www.ridermagazine.com/output.cfm?id=2226349 Makes me proud to own a Venture.....now all those HD guys can go jump in a lake. Unfortunately, the full report is not available on-line (at least I can't find it). Someone puhleeze post that article
MasterGuns Posted July 24, 2009 #3 Posted July 24, 2009 Did the article mention value retention of both?
Snarley Bill Posted July 24, 2009 #4 Posted July 24, 2009 i would have thought the venture would blow the harley away. if nothing else the technology would do it. overhead cam, four valves per cyl., watercooled, shaft drive, premium warranty, great price. etc. accept for the lack of injection, which i never missed, and the tape deck. it is still a very up to date bike. i would be proud to own and ride one. i loved my rstd. and could easily dust an oem harley. the only complaint i had was the handling. it wallowed when pushed hard in the curves, but it was'nt meant to be a crotch rocket.
donaldj2242 Posted July 24, 2009 #5 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) Just finished reading the article in the Sept 09 issue of Rider. Pretty interesting a 10-year-old bike can tie for first with three newly engineered bikes. I knew there was a reason I loved this bike. Edited July 24, 2009 by donaldj2242
MidlifeVenture Posted July 24, 2009 #6 Posted July 24, 2009 Well the half the price may make up for the lack of redesign
Mariner Fan Posted July 24, 2009 #7 Posted July 24, 2009 Hard to believe they even included the Venture in the test. Seems these magazines have forgotten about it in comparisons lately.
SilvrT Posted July 24, 2009 #8 Posted July 24, 2009 Just finished reading the article in the Sept 09 issue of Rider. Pretty interesting a 10-year-old bike can tie for first with three newly engineered bikes. I knew there was a reason I loved this bike. That's not just Interesting, thats.... IMPRESSIVE!
RTR Posted July 24, 2009 #9 Posted July 24, 2009 another article in the magazine says 1st gen outperformed all others!!!
SilvrT Posted July 24, 2009 #10 Posted July 24, 2009 another article in the magazine says 1st gen outperformed all others!!! musta been some major typeos in that article!
FreezyRider Posted July 25, 2009 #12 Posted July 25, 2009 Well the half the price may make up for the lack of redesign Where do you get your figures? According to the article, which used MSRP prices for all of them, the RSV is only a couple thousand less than the Harley. Show me where I can buy a new RSV for half the price of the new Harley and I'll do it. Joe
Freebird Posted July 25, 2009 #13 Posted July 25, 2009 Well...I agree that half is a stretch but it's not hard to buy one for close to $10,000.00 less. A lot of folks here have bought new RSVs for somewhere around $14,000.00. New Ultra Classics will run in the $23,000.00 range.
Yammer Dan Posted July 25, 2009 #14 Posted July 25, 2009 another article in the magazine says 1st gen outperformed all others!!! I saw that part!!! Got mine this morning!! Had to go out and fire "Ugly" up and just listen to her for a while!!!:rotfl::rotfl:
FreezyRider Posted July 25, 2009 #15 Posted July 25, 2009 Well...I agree that half is a stretch but it's not hard to buy one for close to $10,000.00 less. A lot of folks here have bought new RSVs for somewhere around $14,000.00. New Ultra Classics will run in the $23,000.00 range. MSRP on the 2009 HD Ultra classic is $20,999 with 2-tone paint and ABS. The 2009 Venture is $18,190. What you can actually buy them for is really up to the particular dealer and what kind of mood you catch them in. I'm not arguing that there isn't a price difference, we all know there is. I'd still buy the Venture over the UC if the price was identical. I'm just saying....let's know exaggerate just because it's HD we're talking about. Joe
Sailor Posted July 25, 2009 #16 Posted July 25, 2009 As I said on another thread on this subject....I suspect the amount of money spent advertising in a particular magazine carries weight so far as results and product placement go. So long as Yamaha refuses to advertise the Venture you will not see it front and center in any magazine.
YamaGeezer Posted July 26, 2009 #17 Posted July 26, 2009 My friend at work just bought a 2009 Ultra Classic. He went to 8 different HD dealerships in three different states, and $24K was the best he could do. He got a few T-shirts thrown into the deal. Don't know if he's just sucker when it comes to making a deal, but he sure put in the effort to get a '09 cheaper. Ended up buying it from the HD dealership in his hometown (HD of Greenville). I know you can get a '09 Venture for $15K. And you won't have to travel to dealerships in 3 states to get it.
loehring Posted July 26, 2009 #18 Posted July 26, 2009 My friend at work just bought a 2009 Ultra Classic. He went to 8 different HD dealerships in three different states, and $24K was the best he could do. He got a few T-shirts thrown into the deal. Don't know if he's just sucker when it comes to making a deal, but he sure put in the effort to get a '09 cheaper. Ended up buying it from the HD dealership in his hometown (HD of Greenville). I know you can get a '09 Venture for $15K. And you won't have to travel to dealerships in 3 states to get it. Actually he was just familiarizing himself with where to get service in different states when he rides.
Guest BluesLover Posted July 26, 2009 #19 Posted July 26, 2009 MSRP on the 2009 HD Ultra classic is $20,999 with 2-tone paint and ABS. The 2009 Venture is $18,190. And for that price the Ultra comes already equipped with the front fender rails, the passing lights and the rear bag rails (oh yeah ... and a CD player too). By the time you add the cost of those items to the RSV MSRP, how far away are they really???? Cheers, Lou
Ole Posted July 26, 2009 #20 Posted July 26, 2009 Here is my .02 on price comparisons between the UC and the RSV. I live in San Antonio and was looking for a new bike last winter. We were convinced that the UC was the bike to buy. We talked to the Harley dealer down the street from us. The best price we could get with the UC was 24K. This included a new seat because the stock seat was no match for the RSV and my wife said she would not be able to ride for long without a more comfortable seat. The dealer was quoting us MSRP and would not come off his price. He bragged that they "only" sell their bikes at MSRP where other Harley dealers sell above MSRP. We bought a new '08 RSV for 15K even though MSRP was obviously higher. So our purchase was not half price of the UC, but a lot less nonetheless. This post is not meant to dis the UC or owners, I like their bikes a lot. Just wanted to share my experience with pricing of the UC and RSV. We are happy with our purchase. My wife, and I, absolutely love the ride of the RSV. Ken
tsigwing Posted July 26, 2009 #21 Posted July 26, 2009 And for that price the Ultra comes already equipped with the front fender rails, the passing lights and the rear bag rails (oh yeah ... and a CD player too). By the time you add the cost of those items to the RSV MSRP, how far away are they really???? Cheers, Lou and as a counter, how much to add the fuel injection to the RSV?
Sailor Posted July 26, 2009 #22 Posted July 26, 2009 My Venture was about $6000.00 less than a Gold Wing and over $10,000.00 less than a Harley. That pays for a lot of add ons and fuel.
loehring Posted July 26, 2009 #23 Posted July 26, 2009 I tried to post the entire article in a pdf but even one page was too big. If you want the entire article send me an email with a return addy.
gprice Posted July 26, 2009 #24 Posted July 26, 2009 And for that price the Ultra comes already equipped with the front fender rails, the passing lights and the rear bag rails (oh yeah ... and a CD player too). By the time you add the cost of those items to the RSV MSRP, how far away are they really???? Cheers, Lou if that is the way you want to go how mutch to put liquid cooling on the ultra that was a large factor in my purchase
OldBear Posted July 26, 2009 #25 Posted July 26, 2009 It's also worth noting that there is a MUCH better warranty on our RSV's than the HD. I know HD builds a pretty decent machine these days, but being an oldtimer I still remember the old "ride 'em out and push 'em in" times. I looked at the Ultra but, frankly, liked the RSV better (and momma liked it a LOT better:innocent-emoticon: Frankly to me what's important is THAT you ride, not WHAT ya ride!
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