waterbug Posted July 20, 2009 #1 Posted July 20, 2009 I was looking at my bike at lunch today and seen a screw in the back tire oh joy!! I called around and nobody will put a plug in it and only want to put a new tire on the back for 220 bucks any ideas? Thanks
pick Posted July 20, 2009 #2 Posted July 20, 2009 I agree about not plugging, Mototire has a rear for about buck and a quarter, my local charges me $20 to mount and balance if I bring it to him?
Sylvester Posted July 20, 2009 #3 Posted July 20, 2009 First remove the screw. If it does not leak air, you are OK. If it dumps all the air from the tire, you are screwed. If it leaks slowly, buy a repair plug kit and plug it. Oh by the way, do this with the weight off the tire so it doesn't break the bead.
flb_78 Posted July 20, 2009 #4 Posted July 20, 2009 pull the screw out and if it leaks, plug the tire. It'd be better if you can get it patched from the inside though. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41xjVQvErTL._SL500_AA280_.jpg
dkip Posted July 20, 2009 #5 Posted July 20, 2009 Same thing happened to me with nearly new tires Pulled the screw and plug it myself.Ijust check the pressure on a regular basis as you should anyways. Mine is still holding good after 3000 miles I dont worry about the plug anymore than getting a flat when driving than from any other hazzard dkip
SteveW Posted July 21, 2009 #6 Posted July 21, 2009 I had a metz 880 only 3 days old that picked up a nail ( just my luck ). I plugged it and added Ride-On to the tire. Got 10,000 miles out of that rear tire without any problems.
MiCarl Posted July 21, 2009 #7 Posted July 21, 2009 There is a reason no shop will plug that tire. It'd probably be fine but if it isn't your widow ends up owning their business. I know an engineer at Firestone. He will not accept plugs in his car tires. On the other hand, most of mine are full of plugs and I've never had a tire failure. Too big a chance for loss of control if a tire fails. For me, it's worth the $$ to replace a motorcycle tire.
tsigwing Posted July 21, 2009 #8 Posted July 21, 2009 I was looking at my bike at lunch today and seen a screw in the back tire oh joy!! I called around and nobody will put a plug in it and only want to put a new tire on the back for 220 bucks any ideas? Thanks plug it and go on. i have been plugging my tires for years with no issues ever.
Reaney in NH Posted July 21, 2009 #9 Posted July 21, 2009 After nearly 20 years in the tire business... Just plug it and forget it. I've never seen a tire failure due to a properly installed plug. I carry plugs with me on all my vehicles and would not hesitate to plug any tire unless its a sidewall punture.
Eddie Fulmer Posted July 21, 2009 #10 Posted July 21, 2009 After installing a new tire on my BEAUTIFUL Venture it wasn't 2 days until i spotted a screw in it. Since I mount the tires myself I took the tire off and patched it from the inside. Then did 4650k in 10 days. No problems. While on a ride with some buds one of the guys had a screw in his tire. Out of town, night time, we went to Wal mart, bought a plug kit, and patched his tire. He asked me just 3 days ago when we could put a new tire on. His was worn much further than I run one and the plug was still going strong. That being said.. PLUG IT
waterbug Posted July 21, 2009 Author #11 Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks for all the info everyone!! I used to have a guy that did my car tires and had a epoxy he would put in it that made the plug part of the tire and it would not come out and I never had a problem with any of them. I need to get me a lift or something I guess this winter so I can work on this pig when I have a problem.
Mariner Fan Posted July 21, 2009 #12 Posted July 21, 2009 Kevin, I have the lift adapter if you need to use it.
Bret in Houston Posted July 21, 2009 #13 Posted July 21, 2009 Check Harbor Freight or online search, they are great. Bret
waterbug Posted July 21, 2009 Author #14 Posted July 21, 2009 I need to check around some, my dealer told me the tire is 130 for a new E3 and with labor to change it its going to be around 220 and that seems kinda hi for labor to me. It has a 404 on it now that is factory with 7K on it and alot of tread. With me riding it to work I know I pickied it up at the shop with one of the guys just throwing screws were ever when they take a car apart. I seen a lift table at harbor frieght the last time I was there but it didnt have any info on it or a price and I was in a hurry at lunch time, is it worth a crap? Thanks
RandyR Posted July 21, 2009 #15 Posted July 21, 2009 A lot of people use the Sears MC jack. It seems to be on sale a couple times each year. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=32067&highlight=sears+jack
Squidley Posted July 21, 2009 #16 Posted July 21, 2009 I know that you have probably taken care of this already, but I'll still say it. Patch the tire from the inside. I know MANY of the members here will say different and just to plug it, but when I managed a tire store, I NEVER installed just a plug into a tire. Yes it is a liability issue, and with this sue happy society that even if they dont take your business, you'll loose it due to spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer. A plug is a temporary fix to get it to where it can be properly fixed with a patch. Yes I know about all the people that plug tires everyday and drive them till the tire needs to be changed. My life is worth WAY more than what it costs to install a plug. Not starting a war here, just onther opinion on what I feel is the right way to fix ANY tire
BOO Posted July 21, 2009 #17 Posted July 21, 2009 I know that you have probably taken care of this already, but I'll still say it. Patch the tire from the inside. I know MANY of the members here will say different and just to plug it, but when I managed a tire store, I NEVER installed just a plug into a tire. Yes it is a liability issue, and with this sue happy society that even if they dont take your business, you'll loose it due to spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer. A plug is a temporary fix to get it to where it can be properly fixed with a patch. Yes I know about all the people that plug tires everyday and drive them till the tire needs to be changed. My life is worth WAY more than what it costs to install a plug. Not starting a war here, just onther opinion on what I feel is the right way to fix ANY tire Squidley, I'm not sure what you say is so true anymore and I get my share of flat tires on my pickup. There was a time when I couldn't get a tire plugged, everyplace I went wanted to remove it and patch but in the last year or maybe more I find most of the places I deal with will plug the tire. So maybe the new glues etc have changed. I might also say I have never had a plug leak so I am presuming it is bonded well to the tire. Like I said before in another post a person has to make up his or her own mind about riding on a plugged tire or a patched tire for that matter. I have no problem doing it. I can ride down the road and never think about it but if you sit in the seat and worry about it the whole time you are on the bike, replace the thing, it ain't worth it. AND I'm not so sure a patch is much better than a plug. Sorry to hear you guys won't be in Arkansas, was looking forward to harassing you in person again. I may have to just run over to Michigan sometime. BOO
jburrell Posted July 21, 2009 #18 Posted July 21, 2009 Just plug it and go until you feel you need to change the tire. If you want to be safe plug it then when you get a chance have the tire patched from the inside. I had a nail hole in my rear tire directly in the center. I plugged it with the soft gooey rope plugs and never had a problem Put about 600 miles before I got my new WWW tires. I have a Harbor Frieght and we used it for the Southeast Texas Maintenance Day back in april and I have used it numerous times with the Carbon one adapter and it works great. No issues and with the adapter the bike sits there very firmly and you dont have to worry as much about the bike. My
flb_78 Posted July 21, 2009 #19 Posted July 21, 2009 I know that you have probably taken care of this already, but I'll still say it. Patch the tire from the inside. I know MANY of the members here will say different and just to plug it, but when I managed a tire store, I NEVER installed just a plug into a tire. Yes it is a liability issue, and with this sue happy society that even if they dont take your business, you'll loose it due to spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer. A plug is a temporary fix to get it to where it can be properly fixed with a patch. Yes I know about all the people that plug tires everyday and drive them till the tire needs to be changed. My life is worth WAY more than what it costs to install a plug. Not starting a war here, just onther opinion on what I feel is the right way to fix ANY tire No argument from me here. A plug/patch is the best solution. http://www.timgilles.com/photogallery/13.60aplugpatchcombo.jpg
Squidley Posted July 21, 2009 #20 Posted July 21, 2009 No argument from me here. A plug/patch is the best solution. http://www.timgilles.com/photogallery/13.60aplugpatchcombo.jpg I have installed them also, and they do work well
Silver Bullet Posted July 22, 2009 #21 Posted July 22, 2009 plug it . put some ride-on in it,,,,forget it. been there done that. worked very good.
waterbug Posted July 22, 2009 Author #22 Posted July 22, 2009 Why do you need a adaptor for the lift table? I asume you just pull the bike up on it and lift it up and drop the back table were the tire is?? Thanks everyone for all the info, I know if i buy a new tire I will just get another screw in it at work sooner or later.
Guest curtismiller Posted July 22, 2009 #23 Posted July 22, 2009 For those who are saying that the plug is so dangerous.Please give us some examples of plug failures and the bad thing that happened after it did.I am sure you know of many instants or you would not be so adamant against them. curtis
flb_78 Posted July 22, 2009 #24 Posted July 22, 2009 I had 1 leak down after it was installed and my buddy Bill in DFW actually had one some out of the tire. I plugged the BFG on the RSV and it held AOK for over 10,000 miles with the $5 kit from ChinaMart. I have no problems using a plug, but it's not a proper repair. Im running on a patched front tire right now as well that was given to me by another forum member. I installed a patch/plug from the inside myself. I don't trust others to work on my bike. http://www.tirestrings.com/Patch%20Plug.gif
Squidley Posted July 22, 2009 #25 Posted July 22, 2009 For those who are saying that the plug is so dangerous.Please give us some examples of plug failures and the bad thing that happened after it did.I am sure you know of many instants or you would not be so adamant against them. curtis Curtis, What happens with a plug when it's installed is this. 1st off you make the hole Bigger by shoving the "Cleaning Tool", basicall a very coarse file, through it to clean it out and make a larger hole to accomodate the plug. You are further breaking the steel belts in the tire and making that a weak point for the belts to shift and destroy the tire even more. Now your taking a plug and distorting the tire once it's shoved in. Now I dont know about all areas of the US, but here in Michigan, aptly named the rust belt, we use salt to clear the snow from the roads. Now you have a tire, with steel belts exposed to salt, which corrodes them and destroys the tire even more. I know there will be arguements of folks saying "Well if you do it right, you wont have any problems" This could be true, but you have to know absolutely that you have done it right. I know folks do it all day long everyday, but the proper way to repair a tire is with a patch from the inside. I'm especially anal on this as I have been on a bike that lost it's rear tire at 75 mph. On a bike tire, and theres only 2 unless it's a trike, I dont need to worry about tire issues that a plug can bring
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