Freebird Posted July 17, 2009 #1 Posted July 17, 2009 OK folks, several of you have requested that we offer some new shirts for our members. I'm very pleased to announce that Big Tom has offered to head up this project and we will be offering something very soon. I suggested that we keep it simple and just offer a couple of colors and styles but Tom said that it's not a huge deal to offer several colors and styles so we will see what he comes up with. These shirts WILL have our new revised logo on the back and probably just VentureRiders text in the front pocket area. YES...I did tell him that some of you insist on pockets so we do plan to offer those also. I've attached the new logo for those of you who may not have seen it. A huge thanks to Gray Ghost for his work on the Logo.
spear Posted July 17, 2009 #5 Posted July 17, 2009 Love the logo. Nice to see Africa and half of Europe missing. Even nicer to see that The Great Southern Land is included.
craigatcsi Posted July 17, 2009 #7 Posted July 17, 2009 If there weren't reservations required, I would like at least one. craigr
6m459 Posted July 17, 2009 #8 Posted July 17, 2009 Don't get me wong, I like the idea of a Tee shirt or two and I am all for a pocket and choice of colours! I will be ordering a shirt or two. I'd also like to emblazen my bikes with some VR.org endorsement since it is the reason the old gal's still go. I have to say however that I am not a big fan of the logo. It doesn't visually suggest anything to do with motorcycles, its too dark and the type face is too small and in distinct to even get the URL across to the casual observer. With my membership renewal, the other venture site sent me stickers & badges with their logo on. Aside from the fact that their's has more visual 'pop' to it, it features profile / silouettes of both gen 1 & 2 bikes which make it un mistakably about motorcycles. Sorry to be negative but can't we do better logo wise? Brian H.
Freebird Posted July 17, 2009 Author #9 Posted July 17, 2009 OK...that is fair criticism and it's always welcome. Let me address a couple of them. Yes, the other Venture site sends you pins, patches, etc. We could do that too. All we need to do is raise the price of the dues here to match theirs and we could cover that. I chose to do it this way though because I do understand that some folks are going through tough times and having access to the site is the important thing to them. Some could care less about pins, patches, decals, etc. So, here you have a choice. A basic membership with access to all the important information and fellow riders and the opportunity to purchase the other items if you so desire. Sorry, but I think that our way makes more sense. I may be wrong though. As for the logo design. I designed it long ago when I first started this club. I do not profess to be a graphics artist but most everybody voted for it and liked it at the time. A couple of years ago, I posted here that I thought we needed something better and asked if there were any artists here who were interested in coming up with a new design. The response was OVERWHELMINGLY against a new logo. The bulk of comments were that "this is our logo, it always has been, there is no reason to change it". So, I dropped the issue. Further discussion, comments, suggestions are always welcome.
wes0778 Posted July 17, 2009 #10 Posted July 17, 2009 OK...that is fair criticism and it's always welcome. Let me address a couple of them. Yes, the other Venture site sends you pins, patches, etc. We could do that too. All we need to do is raise the price of the dues here to match theirs and we could cover that. I chose to do it this way though because I do understand that some folks are going through tough times and having access to the site is the important thing to them. Some could care less about pins, patches, decals, etc. So, here you have a choice. A basic membership with access to all the important information and fellow riders and the opportunity to purchase the other items if you so desire. Sorry, but I think that our way makes more sense. I may be wrong though. As for the logo design. I designed it long ago when I first started this club. I do not profess to be a graphics artist but most everybody voted for it and liked it at the time. A couple of years ago, I posted here that I thought we needed something better and asked if there were any artists here who were interested in coming up with a new design. The response was OVERWHELMINGLY against a new logo. The bulk of comments were that "this is our logo, it always has been, there is no reason to change it". So, I dropped the issue. Further discussion, comments, suggestions are always welcome. If it ain't broke, don't fixit!!!
Yammer Dan Posted July 17, 2009 #11 Posted July 17, 2009 OK...that is fair criticism and it's always welcome. Let me address a couple of them. Yes, the other Venture site sends you pins, patches, etc. We could do that too. All we need to do is raise the price of the dues here to match theirs and we could cover that. I chose to do it this way though because I do understand that some folks are going through tough times and having access to the site is the important thing to them. Some could care less about pins, patches, decals, etc. So, here you have a choice. A basic membership with access to all the important information and fellow riders and the opportunity to purchase the other items if you so desire. Sorry, but I think that our way makes more sense. I may be wrong though. As for the logo design. I designed it long ago when I first started this club. I do not profess to be a graphics artist but most everybody voted for it and liked it at the time. A couple of years ago, I posted here that I thought we needed something better and asked if there were any artists here who were interested in coming up with a new design. The response was OVERWHELMINGLY against a new logo. The bulk of comments were that "this is our logo, it always has been, there is no reason to change it". So, I dropped the issue. Further discussion, comments, suggestions are always welcome. :sign yeah that::sign yeah that::sign yeah that:
Squeeze Posted July 17, 2009 #12 Posted July 17, 2009 I like the Logo a Lot(even if my Home ground is not seen), and i, personally see no Reason for having our Logo a distinct Relationship to our Motorcycles or Motorcycles in general. This would make it drown somewhat in Ocean of other Patches and Logos and whatnot else we display when we out there. Yes, this Site is about Motorcycles, but to be honest, it has been, it is and it ever will be much more than Motorcycles for me. This is extended Family for me and this Family doesn't need to show what it's all about. On the opposite, if some looks at the Logo and can't see what the Logo says, he might be teased much more and asks me, what I'm wearing. Happend to me more than once.
Condor Posted July 17, 2009 #13 Posted July 17, 2009 About the T-Shirts. A while back I picked up a couple of T's off one of my fishing boards. Along the edge of the left sleeve they printed their URL WWW.SENORTUNA.COM in 1/2" high letters, and their logo on the back. It looks kinda cool... I've seen URL's on the adjustment straps of caps, but I don't think I've seen the bug used on a T. BTW the logo works for me on the T. However I wouldn't mind having a small decal about 1"x2" that would fit down in the corner of the windscreen. I'm not into the scoot looking like a billboard. Sorry....
loehring Posted July 17, 2009 #14 Posted July 17, 2009 Your home ground may be covered up a little but it's front and center Squeeze. I personally like the logo and if "Get on and ride" doesn't say motorcycles I don't know what does. I've never heard a cager talk like that and we sure don't look like we could afford horses. Don, I'm with you on the pins and patches. I would much rather buy what I want then have someone send me something I may or may not wear. My vest is about full anyway. I have the VR pin now and wouldn't replace it or add a patch anyway. I will buy a few T-Shirts though. I will say that if we do have someone who is an artist (Not Me) that it would be pretty cool to have some graphics on a shirt like we see with others (Eagles, Dragons etc) on the back but that doesn't mean to change the logo. It could just be cool graphics with the motto and the logo in the front. I would buy those too.
muffinman Posted July 17, 2009 #15 Posted July 17, 2009 Don I agree with you on your thinking.I was one of the members that said dont change the logo way back when. If someone does not like the Logo that alot of us consider a Family Crest they dont have to get it whether on a shirt,hat,or other items that we come up with on occasion.I know that Freebird (dad to some of us) is always open to suggestions and comments.I will say that before any changes are made Don will ask the members of the Family and after the vote that is when he will make the decision on changes or no changes. I like the new Logo and will get Mini to order some shirts for me with pockets of course. I say we all say Thanks to Grey Ghost and Big Tom for the new art work and the chance to get some new t shirts.:clap2: I look forward to getting back from the sandbox to sport the new shirts at a meet and eat or 20 you never know where I am gonna turn up when Mini gets tired of seeing me again. Jeff
Squeeze Posted July 17, 2009 #16 Posted July 17, 2009 Your home ground may be covered up a little but it's front and center Squeeze. I personally like the logo and if "Get on and ride" doesn't say motorcycles I don't know what does. I've never heard a cager talk like that and we sure don't look like we could afford horses. .. You''re absolutely right !!! :bowdown:
SilvrT Posted July 17, 2009 #17 Posted July 17, 2009 Sorry, but I think that our way makes more sense. I may be wrong though. You ain't wrong... you're BANG ON! as far as I'm concerned. I'm one of those one's who don't care for all that "junk" (pins, patches, stickers, etc) .. T-shirts? well, I never was big on anything but "plain" but for this one, and a couple others I got, I make the exception.
SilvrT Posted July 17, 2009 #18 Posted July 17, 2009 if "Get on and ride" doesn't say motorcycles I don't know what does. hmmmmmm... with a mind like mine, I could suggest other possibilities.... :D
mini-muffin Posted July 17, 2009 #19 Posted July 17, 2009 It actually represents us better now. I like it. Let us know when it's time to order. Margaret
Yammer Dan Posted July 17, 2009 #20 Posted July 17, 2009 Don I agree with you on your thinking.I was one of the members that said dont change the logo way back when. If someone does not like the Logo that alot of us consider a Family Crest they dont have to get it whether on a shirt,hat,or other items that we come up with on occasion.I know that Freebird (dad to some of us) is always open to suggestions and comments.I will say that before any changes are made Don will ask the members of the Family and after the vote that is when he will make the decision on changes or no changes. I like the new Logo and will get Mini to order some shirts for me with pockets of course. I say we all say Thanks to Grey Ghost and Big Tom for the new art work and the chance to get some new t shirts.:clap2: I look forward to getting back from the sandbox to sport the new shirts at a meet and eat or 20 you never know where I am gonna turn up when Mini gets tired of seeing me again. Jeff Mini might not turn you loose for a while after you get back!!!:rotfl:
loehring Posted July 17, 2009 #21 Posted July 17, 2009 hmmmmmm... with a mind like mine, I could suggest other possibilities.... :DThen we really would need to change the logo.
calperin Posted July 17, 2009 #23 Posted July 17, 2009 I don't know what is this all about, but I would like to get 3 shirts. :snow2:
1BigDog Posted July 17, 2009 #24 Posted July 17, 2009 I was one of the guys who recommended a patch change back then but I was only looking to add a little color to it. This new logo looks like it fits the bill. I like it. Ill definitely be in for a few shirts with and without pockets. You guys did good!!
SteveW Posted July 17, 2009 #25 Posted July 17, 2009 Good Job Boss we will take a couple when they are ready !!! Black with pocket
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