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Looks like it's brake pad change time coming up soon in the front.. most likely in the rear as well.. Instead of the Yamaha pads.. what's the general consensus on the EBC

Double-H Sintered Brake Pads? Do people feel they perform better? Last any longer?

 

Thanks in advance..

 

Cheers

Guest tx2sturgis
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I'm still 'bedding' in my EBC double H rear pads. Seems to be a pretty good match for the stock pads. Maybe its just because they are still bedding in, but the 'feel' seems to be just a bit softer and not as 'grabby' as the stock pads. It seems a bit easier to modulate the rear, especially when 'playing' the brake during slow parking lot maneuvers and lock-to-lock turns. Not a HUGE difference, just a small improvement.

 

I have not yet had to make a 'panic' stop...so I cant comment on that...so far! ( thats a good thing, right?)

 

YMMV.

 

Posted

Hey Seaking,

I posted this a while back about Rotors and Calipers: Take what you need, leave the rest.

 

Interesting Facts About The Stock Rotors and Calipers!

The stock Yamaha rotors on the first gens. are made from a relative "soft" alloy steel by todays standards. The use of the aftermarket "HH" cintered pads really take their toll on them in the way of excessive wear and warpage. The optimal union was the organic pads and the stock rotors. This and the linked braking system were cutting edge technology..... in the eighties! The reason you are seeing "chatter" on the aftermarket Rotors and HH sintered pads is two fold, you are using a more modern rotor made from a "Harder" more wear resistant alloy composition and you have a "harder" HH sintered pad in a two piece caliper which is 25 year old technology. There isn't a performance motorcycle currently produced that uses two piece calipers any more. As far as running rotors that are under spec thickness wise goes, the problem is that the pistons are extended so far out of the caliper bore that they actually "cock" which causes premature seal failure and compounds the "caliper flex" which causes chatter and lock-up. One trick I have had good luck with is to replace the pads at 50% wear to keep the caliper pistons from overextending, This gets expensive if you do a LOT of riding. The other thing you can do is change your braking habits and use more brake pedal instead of always grabbing the the hand brake, after all you are using ONE caliper and ONE rotor to stop an 800+ pound motorcycle when you have THREE calipers and THREE rotors available. Option "C" is transform your 22 year old braking system to more modern technology as shown here:

 

[ame=http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27170]http://www.venturerider.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=27170[/ame]

 

Have questions, need parts, want someone to install this mod on your bike, PM me.

Earl

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A good interesting read Sky_doc.. Many thanks.. sent you a PM.

 

Cheers

 

Hey Seaking,

I posted this a while back about Rotors and Calipers: Take what you need, leave the rest.

 

Interesting Facts About The Stock Rotors and Calipers!

The stock Yamaha rotors on the first gens. are made from a relative "soft" alloy steel by todays standards. The use of the aftermarket "HH" cintered pads really take their toll on them in the way of excessive wear and warpage. The optimal union was the organic pads and the stock rotors. This and the linked braking system were cutting edge technology..... in the eighties! The reason you are seeing "chatter" on the aftermarket Rotors and HH sintered pads is two fold, you are using a more modern rotor made from a "Harder" more wear resistant alloy composition and you have a "harder" HH sintered pad in a two piece caliper which is 25 year old technology. There isn't a performance motorcycle currently produced that uses two piece calipers any more. As far as running rotors that are under spec thickness wise goes, the problem is that the pistons are extended so far out of the caliper bore that they actually "cock" which causes premature seal failure and compounds the "caliper flex" which causes chatter and lock-up. One trick I have had good luck with is to replace the pads at 50% wear to keep the caliper pistons from overextending, This gets expensive if you do a LOT of riding. The other thing you can do is change your braking habits and use more brake pedal instead of always grabbing the the hand brake, after all you are using ONE caliper and ONE rotor to stop an 800+ pound motorcycle when you have THREE calipers and THREE rotors available. Option "C" is transform your 22 year old braking system to more modern technology as shown here:

 

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=27170

 

Have questions, need parts, want someone to install this mod on your bike, PM me.

Earl

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