Guest Bountyhound Posted June 26, 2009 #1 Posted June 26, 2009 My bike has been at dealer shop now for 5 weeks. They say I have stuck valve and should be using ring free or techron with my gas and use premium gas only. They have agreed to fix under warranty. After all, they are the only one that has serviced my bike and never mentioned this when I drove it off the showroom floor. I love my bike but don't want this to happen in future. I don't see where I have done anything wrong but I have not been putting additives in gas between fill ups. Has any one else had this issue?
RandyR Posted June 26, 2009 #2 Posted June 26, 2009 BS. The factory specs say use regular gas. The factory manual NOWHERE says to use fuel additives. This is a warranty repair that Yamaha is responsible for. That said, I steer away from el cheapo gasoline because it doesn't contain cleaning additives that the major brands include with their regular grade fuel.
CMIKE Posted June 26, 2009 #3 Posted June 26, 2009 My bike has been at dealer shop now for 5 weeks. They say I have stuck valve and should be using ring free or techron with my gas and use premium gas only. They have agreed to fix under warranty. After all, they are the only one that has serviced my bike and never mentioned this when I drove it off the showroom floor. I love my bike but don't want this to happen in future. I don't see where I have done anything wrong but I have not been putting additives in gas between fill ups. Has any one else had this issue? Please let us know what dealer you have your bike at... We do not want to get caught up in that stupidity. That is a clear warranty issue.
vboostaddict Posted June 26, 2009 #4 Posted June 26, 2009 Besides all that these bikes are supposed to have a 5 year bumper to bumper warrenty. vboostaddict vboostaddict
RandyR Posted June 26, 2009 #5 Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) If your valves have gunk on them from burning inexpensive gasoline, then using some extra Techron additive for a while might be a good thing. Then I'd switch to a major brand of fuel like Chevron/Texaco or BP/Amoco/Arco or Shell. Lots of forum members might recommend some Seafoam be run thru periodically. If you use a high grade fuel, I don't think that should be necessary. Edited June 26, 2009 by RandyR
Wrongway Posted June 26, 2009 #6 Posted June 26, 2009 BS. The factory specs say use regular gas. The factory manual NOWHERE says to use fuel additives. This is a warranty repair that Yamaha is responsible for. That said, I steer away from el cheapo gasoline because it doesn't contain cleaning additives that the major brands include with their regular grade fuel. Using premium gas is throwing your money away, and if you want to make the dealer squirm, ask them to show you where it says to use premium gas and to use fuel additives. This guy has made a fool of himself to 7,000 riders.
davecb Posted June 27, 2009 #7 Posted June 27, 2009 According to Consumer Reports, the difference between additives in cheap gas and expensive gas is minimal. The feds require all gas to have a certain amount of additives, The more expensive gas adds a couple drops to 5000 gallons and says theirs is better....But I will say, if a dealer had my bike for 5 weeks and did not have it fixed, they would be replacing the bike or see WW3........Shoulda had it fixed within 5 days in my book. MAKEM DOIT..........
BuddyRich Posted June 27, 2009 #8 Posted June 27, 2009 The dealer is full of it. I would really take them to task on it and tell them to show me in the manual where it says you have to do these things. I would probably use a different dealer after that too. In no way did you have anything to do with a stuck ring yet they want to say "you should be doing this" BULL....
bamico Posted June 27, 2009 #9 Posted June 27, 2009 BS from the Dealer. Manual says straight unleaded. 20k on mine, never an issue. Also, no matter what, its 5 year warrenty - tire to tire - on the bike, independent of owner/owners. 5 years, complete bike, period. Hope it works out for you.
brendadj Posted July 3, 2009 #10 Posted July 3, 2009 I am wondering if I got a lemon or what? I have a 2007 Midnight Venture for 1700 miles on (yes, that's really 1700)- essentially a new bike that is barely broken in. When I went to start the bike this May, gas came pouring out on the garage floor. The bike shop picked it up and after a LONG fight with Yamaha and the bike shop, I paid $80 and the shop and Yamaha split the cost of the repairing two needle valves. I rode the bike home from the bike shop and it seemed fine. We had a cold spring here in Wisconsin and I didn't get to ride much after the repair was completed. I started the bike after it was sitting for 5-6 weeks and the same thing happened! Gas pouring out on the floor! The bike shop picked it up again and fixed it. I made it clear that I was not willing to pay a cent to fix the needle valves AGAIN! Do I have lemon? I've owned a dozen bikes in my life and never had this problem. Now that I am finally "old enough" to own a good bike it seems ironic that I am having more problems than I ever had with the half-dead beaters I used to drive. What am I doing wrong folks??? Is this a weak spot in the design? Brenda
tsigwing Posted July 3, 2009 #11 Posted July 3, 2009 Your not riding it enough. You let any carbuerated motor sit with gas in it too long and things will gum up as the gas evaporates. If you know you are going to be leaving it for an extended period of time, put some gas stabilizer in it.
flb_78 Posted July 3, 2009 #12 Posted July 3, 2009 I'd like to know how many miles are on the bike with the stuck valve. Usually a stuck valve isn't warranty because it's usually a problem with carbon build up inside head. The problem with the needle jets sticking isn't a warranty item either. It's caused by improper storage. If plan on letting a vehicle sit for an amount of time, the carb/carbs should be drained. It's easy enough to do with a motorcycle, just turn the fuel valve to off and run it until it dies. Also, if they freed up the needles and it was taken home and parked with the same fuel in the tank, what did you expect to happen? 1700 miles on a 3 year old bike, no wonder it's having carb problems.
brendadj Posted July 3, 2009 #13 Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks for the replies so far. The bike has so few miles on it because I bought it after the riding season was over in 2007. In 2008, circumstances beyond my control didn't allow me to ride much. It was stored with fuel stabilzer but the carbs may not have be drained. Prior to this second repair, the bike did sit for a while. I treated my 2005 Venture the same way and nver had a issue. I wonder why the 2007 is different?
flb_78 Posted July 3, 2009 #14 Posted July 3, 2009 Different formulations of gas. The ethanol in the fuel is alcohol and alcohol will attract water and water and gas mixed together in carbs causes corrosion and gummyness.
eusa1 Posted July 3, 2009 #15 Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks for the replies so far. The bike has so few miles on it because I bought it after the riding season was over in 2007. In 2008, circumstances beyond my control didn't allow me to ride much. It was stored with fuel stabilzer but the carbs may not have be drained. Prior to this second repair, the bike did sit for a while. I treated my 2005 Venture the same way and nver had a issue. I wonder why the 2007 is different? as fuel prices go up/// fuel quality goes down. put a fuel treatment product called "SEAFOAM" in every tank of fuel for your venture, and your problem will go away. 1 can will treat 20 gallons of fuel and there is no concern of harm if you over treat the fuel, so you don't have to get your measure cup and your cheaters on, unless your just pinchin pennies. this will have the product where the problem starts, before it can start to be a problem. go buy a can, and go for a ride man!! mike.
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