jlh3rd Posted May 17, 2009 #1 Posted May 17, 2009 i want to thank freebird for what he offered and did for me...we were leaving on a blue ridge pkwy/ natchez trace may 2....of course, this had been planned for a year for vacation......4 days before leaving, the left rear coil failed ...and the dealer says may 12 backorder......my vacaton days are set a year in advance, there is no changing.....long story short...freebird sent me a spare coil, next day service.....no charge.....although , it turned out i didn't need it.....doesn't matter....it was there if i did....THANKS FREEBIRD>>> here's why i didn't need the coil....the service manager along with yamaha reps. ok'd a swap from another new bike from another dealership until my coil came in....so that coil actually made it and i picked the bike up may 1 and left may 2...on schedule......this service manager's name is ed and he works for yamaha of camp hill....this guy also warrantied my battery.......which failed in one year........so there are some good dealers out there........hope ed stays around........so thanks also to this service manager and camp hill of Pa. volts = amps . resistance.........ok..i'm showing 13.8 volts at cruising...... as i turn on accessories ( heated clothes ) etc. the voltage drops to the point where it appears i'm showing about 12.2....maybe even closer to 12....i noticed my gloves were not getting all that warm and i also wasn't using my heated pant liners, which would add more load............so is the system operating correctly.......this is a brand new battery and i have the buckeye stator......my guess is i have resistance somewhere???.......all connections have been checked.......my battery never ran down... i also run passing lamps and a run/turn/brake light system..........how can i test for proper amp output from the stator......
Sylvester Posted May 17, 2009 #2 Posted May 17, 2009 With all that you are running off the electrical system, you need a high output stator. Buckeye Performance sells one for the RSV and is fairly easy to install.
1BigDog Posted May 17, 2009 #3 Posted May 17, 2009 With all that you are running off the electrical system, you need a high output stator. Buckeye Performance sells one for the RSV and is fairly easy to install. He said he had one in there.......darn cats.......
flb_78 Posted May 17, 2009 #4 Posted May 17, 2009 Where are you getting your voltage reading from? Right off the battery or from the cig lighter connection in the fairing? You should be getting the reading straight off the battery.
jlh3rd Posted May 17, 2009 Author #5 Posted May 17, 2009 reading is from the voltmete gauge...but that power is coming from a relay which is receiving power from the lead which goes to the ignition switch NOT from the ignition switch........but i've checked voltage using a digital multimeter at idle and at rpm ...in neutral, parked.....13.2 and 13.8 respectively.....so that equates with the gauge........i just expect to see 13+ volts , even under max load....right?...i know some voltage drop is normal, and, according to the equation, if the amps increase, then voltage can drop......right........or resistance is increasing........
flb_78 Posted May 17, 2009 #6 Posted May 17, 2009 As your resistance (load) increases, the amperage draw will increase off the battery, which can lead to a voltage drop on the battery if the resistance (load) is too great for the system. Best bet is to tell us what the wattages are of all your accessories. Gloves, pants, lights, vest, GPS, coffee warmer, microwave, etc....
Snaggletooth Posted May 17, 2009 #7 Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) Before I purchased my Deka AGM battery and upgrade stator I installed a digital volt meter in the dash of the bike to keep an eye on my charging system. When I talked to Rick at Buckeye to order my stator he mentioned a Kisan unit called a Charge Guard. This is an excellent addditon to any bike to keep you informed of about everthing that is going on with your charging system and never open the bike up to check and find out. It monitor and displays volts, amps usage + & - I belive and the temps with an ice warning. I like my volt meter but on these bikes knowing where you are at on the amps is a nice touch. This will be my next upgrade to the bike. http://www.gadgetjq.com/kisantech_chargeguard.htm http://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=5&catname=chargeGuard http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/product.asp?Item=CG Edited May 17, 2009 by Snaggletooth
Freebird Posted May 17, 2009 #8 Posted May 17, 2009 Well, in my opinion, even with the upgraded stator, you are just putting too much load on the system. From what I've read, Rick's stator is certainly better than stock but still limited. It doesn't take a lot of heated clothes before you run out of capacity. From everything you've described about the voltage at cruising speed and etc., it sounds like it is working properly. If you had a problem on the bike, it would show up before you started turning on your heated clothing.
calperin Posted May 17, 2009 #10 Posted May 17, 2009 (edited) As your resistance (load) increases, the amperage draw will increase off the battery, which can lead to a voltage drop on the battery if the resistance (load) is too great for the system. Best bet is to tell us what the wattages are of all your accessories. Gloves, pants, lights, vest, GPS, coffee warmer, microwave, etc.... I don't want to be retoric, but when the load increase, it means that resistance decrease. Now, as a matter of precision: VoltMeter should go straight to the battery and not to the ignition switch or anything else. and with a correct wire gauge. You don't care about the voltage at the ignition switch or any relay on their way, you care about battery status=battery charge remaining... The indication on ignition switch or cigarette lighter in comparation with the battery will tell you if you have an important drop on your wiring system. LOL Edited May 17, 2009 by calperin Forget something.
midnightventure Posted May 17, 2009 #11 Posted May 17, 2009 Disconnecting the carb heaters is easy and helped me with the electrical load. I have been thinking about going back and installing a switch but haven't got around to it.
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