latchkey Posted March 12, 2009 #1 Posted March 12, 2009 put 250 miles on new federal and i like the handling. no more roar when connering the cures. wife said the ride is smoother for her unless were going over rough payment. i like the change and never going back. interested now about c/t on front?
pegscraper Posted March 12, 2009 #2 Posted March 12, 2009 My wife as the passenger also says the Federal rear CT gives a softer ride and feels more stable. As far as a CT for the front, you're welcome to be the first to try it. I don't know of anyone else who has yet. Tell City, eh? Boy, you live in a nice curvy part of the state. Northern IN is pretty flat and boring.
BigBoyinMS Posted March 12, 2009 #3 Posted March 12, 2009 As few choices as we have for a rear tire there are even fewer for the front. In fact, you would probably have a hard time finding one in Europe to fit. Vredestein makes a 155 and/or 165 80R16... I think. I've decided the next front tire to compliment my C/T will be a REAR M/C tire mounted in reverse. I would like to try a C/T on front, tho.
latchkey Posted March 13, 2009 Author #4 Posted March 13, 2009 yes will most likely go with the m/t rear to front ran backwards. and yes we have lots of hills and cures down here. can put a tire to the test for sure!
AmnChode Posted March 13, 2009 #5 Posted March 13, 2009 From my understanding, c/t on the front is where it would get alot more dicey on the handling/safety. Mainly because most of our steering and control is handle by the front. It is what induces the lean of the bike, where the rear is just following, so to speak. So, having it flat up front might not be a good idea. But being that the front last relatively long, in comparison to a normal m/c rear, no big loss....
wild hair 39 Posted March 13, 2009 #6 Posted March 13, 2009 I'M GETTING 30,000,MLS OUT OF S11 BRIDGE STONES,WITCH MAKES A TIRE CHANGE 2 AT A TIME,any more than that,the front would never get the maint it should:happy-emoticon: sence i started using RIDE-ON,the tire don't seam to be cupping as bad
pegscraper Posted March 13, 2009 #7 Posted March 13, 2009 Really. You have got to be the only person I know of anywhere who likes the Bridgestones. Usually they're referred to as Brickstones. Avon makes the Venom rear tires in sizes that would fit our front. They have both the stock size width and the narrow size that some of us like, both with WWs and without. That's more selection than their front tires offer. I haven't seen a front and rear tire together in the same size, but it is said that the rear tires are made with a lot more rubber on them. My current Avon front tire has 22,000 miles on it. Yes, it's due to be changed. I wonder how many miles I could get out of a rear tire on the front. If it's even half that much more, that would get close to what I expect to get out of my Federal rear tire.
wild hair 39 Posted March 13, 2009 #8 Posted March 13, 2009 Really. You have got to be the only person I know of anywhere who likes the Bridgestones. Usually they're referred to as Brickstones. Avon makes the Venom rear tires in sizes that would fit our front. They have both the stock size width and the narrow size that some of us like, both with WWs and without. That's more selection than their front tires offer. I haven't seen a front and rear tire together in the same size, but it is said that the rear tires are made with a lot more rubber on them. My current Avon front tire has 22,000 miles on it. Yes, it's due to be changed. I wonder how many miles I could get out of a rear tire on the front. If it's even half that much more, that would get close to what I expect to get out of my Federal rear tire. not that i like brickstone,i seam to get pretty good service out of them & cheep too $64 better than dunlop 404:fingers-crossed-emo
eagleeye Posted March 13, 2009 #9 Posted March 13, 2009 I think that I must be missing something here. I do have a CT on order for the rear, but I don't understand the point of putting a rear MTn the front running backwards. If someone could enlighten me, Steve
pegscraper Posted March 13, 2009 #10 Posted March 13, 2009 The rear tires are made with more rubber on them. They'll last longer than standard front tires do because there's more to wear down. The MT tire manufacturers can do this themselves, but they have us all on the hook thinking they can't last long and replacing them more frequently.
BigBoyinMS Posted March 13, 2009 #11 Posted March 13, 2009 And the reason for reversing the rotation direction when mounting on front is because rear tire 'tread patterns' are for accelleration forces and you reverse it on front to optimize for braking forces.
Silver Bullet Posted March 30, 2009 #12 Posted March 30, 2009 so what size rear tire do we put on the front? I like running the narrow tire in front . so can we get the same width . or do we have to go with the wider rear tire on the front?
eagleeye Posted March 30, 2009 #13 Posted March 30, 2009 I've been looking at doing this, and what I am thinking about is a Dunlop 402 (HD) MT90-16 WWW I don't know about other manufacturers, but this tire, has 5/32" tread depth for the front and 9/32" tread depth for the rear---same size tire too. Steve
BigBoyinMS Posted March 30, 2009 #14 Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) so what size rear tire do we put on the front? I like running the narrow tire in front . so can we get the same width . or do we have to go with the wider rear tire on the front? The tire size for the front will still be either the 130/80R16 (MT90-16) or 150/80R16 just as always. Your choice in width. Just order that size in a rear tire. Edit: I just noticed Avon makes a 140/90R16.. hmmmm Edited March 30, 2009 by BigBoyinMS
eagleeye Posted April 2, 2009 #15 Posted April 2, 2009 Just got off of the Dunlop site, and they make a good point about putting a rear tire on the front with the new tire technology: ---RAIN GROOVES--- Tires a designed to expell the rain from the center of the tire, or pull it away-- If you look at a tire mounted backwards, you will notice that the rain grooves channel the rain towards the center of the tire, not away from the tire. Then look at a tire mounted with the arrow in the correct direction. This seems like a bad idea to me. But then again, I'm not a tire expert. I am now rethinking this idea of putting a rear on the front. Food for thought, Steve
tim44 Posted April 2, 2009 #16 Posted April 2, 2009 I also have a question for the more knowledgeable folks. The front tires I have replaced usually have some cupping on them. If you put a longer lasting tire on the front wouldn't you end up the same issue and tread left as well?
pegscraper Posted April 2, 2009 #17 Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) ---RAIN GROOVES--- Tires a designed to expell the rain from the center of the tire, or pull it away-- If you look at a tire mounted backwards, you will notice that the rain grooves channel the rain towards the center of the tire, not away from the tire. Then look at a tire mounted with the arrow in the correct direction. Yes, but that's the direction the rain grooves go on actual front tires. So make the rear tire operate the same way. Imagine the tire being leaned over on its side in a corner. Suddenly the rain grooves are pushing water away from the tire. The guy who mounted mine told me something interesting. He said that many years ago, front and rear MTs used to be exactly the same thing, and the tire would have one arrow pointing one way for rear usage and another arrow pointing the other way for front usage. He added again that that was a long time ago. That clinched it for me. When mounting a rear tire on the front, mount it backwards. Edited April 2, 2009 by pegscraper
pegscraper Posted April 2, 2009 #18 Posted April 2, 2009 I also have a question for the more knowledgeable folks. The front tires I have replaced usually have some cupping on them. If you put a longer lasting tire on the front wouldn't you end up the same issue and tread left as well? What tire are you using? I had one front tire cup on me, after which the dealer told me that that tire has a habit of doing that. Gee, thanks a lot for telling me that ahead of time. The Dunlop D404s and Avons I have used have never done that.
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