tbmmbt Posted January 10, 2009 #1 Posted January 10, 2009 Hi All, Been looking for another bike since we sold our Nomad. Our friend has a 99 RSV and loves the bike. I have looked at different RSV but haven't bought one yet. All the bikes I have found have less than 20k on them but one thing or another has kept me from a purchase. I am looking at one with 50k on it and that is a concern to me. The man wants 9k for the bike but I don't know if that is about right for a bike with that many miles on it or not. Any info one way or another would be greatly appreciated. By the way its a 07. Look forward to any info you all might have. Thanks Butch
star4772 Posted January 10, 2009 #2 Posted January 10, 2009 What year is it? This might make a difference. Joe
V7Goose Posted January 10, 2009 #3 Posted January 10, 2009 50,000 miles is nothing on these machines, but I would hesitate on an older bike simply because lots of things don't necessarily age gracefully. Just sitting and rotting is much harder on equipment than normal use. But an 07 with 50,000 is a good deal - still have most of your 5 year warranty, and nothing has had a chance to "rot" on the bike yet. I wouldn't take $9,000 for my 2005 RSV, and it has 60,000 miles on it! Goose
M61A1MECH Posted January 10, 2009 #4 Posted January 10, 2009 According to Kelly Blue Book the average retail value is $12,135.00 for a standard Venture and $12,645.00 for a Midnight Venture, so the price is about right, but it has 5 times the average expected mileage for a 2007. According to Kelly Blue Book the average expected mileage for a 2007 is just over 10,000. Having said that, my 2007 Venture has something over 27,000 miles. It would take considerably more than $12,000 for some to pry it away from me. I would not be concerned about the mileage as much as would the actual condition of the bike and the availabilty of maintance records. If it has been taken care of and serviced on a regular basis it should last a long time and run for 200,000 miles with few problems.
RoadKill Posted January 10, 2009 #5 Posted January 10, 2009 50,000 miles is nothing on these machines, but I would hesitate on an older bike simply because lots of things don't necessarily age gracefully. Just sitting and rotting is much harder on equipment than normal use. But an 07 with 50,000 is a good deal - still have most of your 5 year warranty, and nothing has had a chance to "rot" on the bike yet. I wouldn't take $9,000 for my 2005 RSV, and it has 60,000 miles on it! Goose I wouldn't take $9K for 2003 with 50K miles either.
cecdoo Posted January 10, 2009 #6 Posted January 10, 2009 If its in nice shape and well maintained I would think thats a pretty good deal. You still have alot of warranty left. Guess it would also depend on the kind of miles you will put on. If you only ride about 10k a year that bike will last you a long time. Hard to beat all that bike for 9k. Good luck, Craig
BuddyRich Posted January 10, 2009 #7 Posted January 10, 2009 My 05 was just getting broken in at 50k. I too came off a Nomad. You'll love the RSV. Its got a lot more power but you have to ride it different. These bikes want to be in the high rpm range so wind it out till its screaming.
ken Posted January 10, 2009 #8 Posted January 10, 2009 I just came across a 07 with 12k on it. They only want $7,500. Here's the link http://www.easyautosales.com/used-cars/2007-Yamaha-ROYAL-STAR-Midnight-Venture-XVZ13TF-7286079.html
tbmmbt Posted January 11, 2009 Author #9 Posted January 11, 2009 We have looked at the bike but the weather wasn't where we could ride it. It looks to be in good shape. Nothing beat or banged up on. It has some Bub pipes on it, Sirrus radio, Chrome cup holder, Trunk rack, Bag rails on the bags and around the bottom of the bags, New tires 90%, K&N air filter with Yamaha Chrome covers, Chrome Yamaha passenger floorboards, Garmin Nav, Cell phone hook-up, LED light below the trunk, Black helmet with intercom, and 2 sets of keys. I don't know alot about these bikes except everyone who has one likes it. Some say that they are top heavy but every one I have rode don't seem that bad. I thought all of you here would know more about these bikes and could give some good advice about this bike. Let me know what you all think. Thanks Butch
star4772 Posted January 11, 2009 #10 Posted January 11, 2009 I wouldn't take $9K for 2003 with 50K miles either. I'm with you roadkill I wouldn't take $11,000 for my 03 with 11,000 miles on it. Joe
slick97spirit Posted January 11, 2009 #11 Posted January 11, 2009 Hi All, Been looking for another bike since we sold our Nomad. Our friend has a 99 RSV and loves the bike. I have looked at different RSV but haven't bought one yet. All the bikes I have found have less than 20k on them but one thing or another has kept me from a purchase. I am looking at one with 50k on it and that is a concern to me. The man wants 9k for the bike but I don't know if that is about right for a bike with that many miles on it or not. Any info one way or another would be greatly appreciated. By the way its a 07. Look forward to any info you all might have. Thanks Butch I paid a little over $7K for my 2000 with 24,000 on it. As far as the number of miles. From what I can gather on this forum, there are quite a few bikes with over 100K and more.
V7Goose Posted January 11, 2009 #12 Posted January 11, 2009 We have looked at the bike but the weather wasn't where we could ride it. It looks to be in good shape. Nothing beat or banged up on. It has some Bub pipes on it, Sirrus radio, Chrome cup holder, Trunk rack, Bag rails on the bags and around the bottom of the bags, New tires 90%, K&N air filter with Yamaha Chrome covers, Chrome Yamaha passenger floorboards, Garmin Nav, Cell phone hook-up, LED light below the trunk, Black helmet with intercom, and 2 sets of keys. I don't know a lot about these bikes except everyone who has one likes it. Some say that they are top heavy but every one I have rode don't seem that bad. I thought all of you here would know more about these bikes and could give some good advice about this bike. Let me know what you all think. Thanks Butch Personally I view obnoxiously loud pipes with suspicion. Even if they are not hiding something, they irritate and annoy others. I don't know how loud those pipes are, but there is little reason someone would change the pipes on an RSV unless they were trying to make it louder. The specific issue here is that a very few of these bikes have a bad engine whine that makes ownership unacceptable. Some people try to mask it with loud pipes. I would insist the owner put the stock pipes back on it before you test ride the bike, then make sure you get a good test through all the gears and at highway speeds to listen for anything that might annoy you. Changing the pipes takes less than 10 minutes, just two bolts each, so if the owner objects, consider this a BIG warning. Goose
Squidley Posted January 11, 2009 #13 Posted January 11, 2009 Hi All, Been looking for another bike since we sold our Nomad. Our friend has a 99 RSV and loves the bike. I have looked at different RSV but haven't bought one yet. All the bikes I have found have less than 20k on them but one thing or another has kept me from a purchase. I am looking at one with 50k on it and that is a concern to me. The man wants 9k for the bike but I don't know if that is about right for a bike with that many miles on it or not. Any info one way or another would be greatly appreciated. By the way its a 07. Look forward to any info you all might have. Thanks Butch An '07 for $9K......buy it
tbmmbt Posted January 11, 2009 Author #14 Posted January 11, 2009 Hi, It has the factory pipes with it as well as some other stuff. The original owner said that he had the clutch basket changed but he didn't know to what. I guess it was to the "I" basket instead. He said he had some chirp or whine and after it was changed he couldn't tell any difference from what he had to what they said they changed to so don't really know what was done. Contacted a Yami dealer and they said the only records on the bike was some sort of relay and the cassette needed changing. No other records. If the "I" basket was put in don't you think Yami would have a record of it being done? Makes me think they pulled one on him. Maybe not. Anyway the wife and I are still thinking. Thanks Butch
BuddyRich Posted January 12, 2009 #15 Posted January 12, 2009 If its used take it for a test ride before you buy it. The whine is mostly heard at certain rpms in certain gears. 45 in 4th 55 in 5th,35 in third. Pretty much sums up my bike and its a whiner
tbmmbt Posted January 12, 2009 Author #16 Posted January 12, 2009 I had looked at a 06 RSV midnight before this bike. Rode the 06 and the chirping was so loud that at 55 I couldn't even hear the radio. I started hearing it when I took off and the faster the bike got the louder the chirping got. The dealer said thats "normal" and that there is nothing that needs fixing. They wouldn't even answer the question of what and why did Yamaha make the "I" basket for? So we let that bike go on to someone else. Thats why we need to ride the 07 but the weather sucks right now but we may have to go take a ride. Butch
wkboard Posted January 12, 2009 #17 Posted January 12, 2009 If you like the sound and feel when you ride it, BUY it! That is a fantastic price with that list of extras.
V7Goose Posted January 12, 2009 #18 Posted January 12, 2009 I had looked at a 06 RSV midnight before this bike. Rode the 06 and the chirping was so loud that at 55 I couldn't even hear the radio. I started hearing it when I took off and the faster the bike got the louder the chirping got. The dealer said thats "normal" and that there is nothing that needs fixing. They wouldn't even answer the question of what and why did Yamaha make the "I" basket for? So we let that bike go on to someone else. Thats why we need to ride the 07 but the weather sucks right now but we may have to go take a ride. Butch Well, it certainly sounds like you already know about the issues and are checking things out properly. I still suggest you make sure you test ride the 07 with stock pipes so you will know for sure if the loud ones are hiding anything. It does sound like the owner is being up-front with you - a good thing. And it also sounds like the dealer did pull one. As for the dealer who gave you the "that's normal" line - you don't want to waste any more time there - find a decent shop, even if you have to travel a bit. Goose
Red Ryder Posted January 12, 2009 #19 Posted January 12, 2009 07 with 50,000 miles is at least twice as normal, but still alot of Factory Warranty. That bike is barly broke in. If it was me, after I test rode it and if you like it, BUY IT. Just remember it shifts different than the V-twin, Let her wind out or she will buck you. Good Luck
RedRider Posted January 12, 2009 #20 Posted January 12, 2009 Personally I view obnoxiously loud pipes with suspicion. Even if they are not hiding something, they irritate and annoy others. I don't know how loud those pipes are, but there is little reason someone would change the pipes on an RSV unless they were trying to make it louder. The specific issue here is that a very few of these bikes have a bad engine whine that makes ownership unacceptable. Some people try to mask it with loud pipes. I would insist the owner put the stock pipes back on it before you test ride the bike, then make sure you get a good test through all the gears and at highway speeds to listen for anything that might annoy you. Changing the pipes takes less than 10 minutes, just two bolts each, so if the owner objects, consider this a BIG warning. Goose The Bub pipes aren't really any louder than the stock, they just sound better. Sounds like a smokin' deal if the whine/chirp problem isn't there. RR
FJR Rider Posted January 12, 2009 #21 Posted January 12, 2009 The Bub pipes aren't really any louder than the stock, they just sound better. Sounds like a smokin' deal if the whine/chirp problem isn't there. RR ++1
MAINEAC Posted January 13, 2009 #22 Posted January 13, 2009 I just came across a 07 with 12k on it. They only want $7,500. Here's the link http://www.easyautosales.com/used-cars/2007-Yamaha-ROYAL-STAR-Midnight-Venture-XVZ13TF-7286079.html This sounds like a much better deal than the 50K mile bike for more money...
tbmmbt Posted January 13, 2009 Author #23 Posted January 13, 2009 We emailed about that 07 Midnight and got a generic reply so we called but as of now we haven't received a call back. That particular bike was a theft recovery but says nothing can be seen wrong with it. It still has warranty according to the local Yamaha dealer but has a record of the front tire coming apart and destroying the fender and the 2 lowers but all was replaced by Yamaha and that nothing has been done to the motor in any way. Butch
GeorgeS Posted January 14, 2009 #24 Posted January 14, 2009 A local dealer, had a New 07 RSV, offered it to me for 12,500.00 4 months ago. Plus, shipping, and State Sales Tax I would check every dealer, in a reasonable distance, see if you can find any new left over 07's or 08's.
OldBull Posted January 15, 2009 #25 Posted January 15, 2009 I have an 83' VR, I did a strip to frame (w/ new powdercoat) restoration with complete platic repairs for all the stress cracks and painted it midnight purple with hand painted pin striping - bike had 29K actual miles on it when I got it. I wouldn't sell mine for 9k, I know what I have. My point is if you like wrenching an older bike can be found with low miles fairly cheap and you can have a beauty for half what your thinking of paying and a lot of fun working on it making it yours. Bull
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