BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 #1 Posted December 7, 2008 Mine finally gave out on me yesterday after completing a Patriot Guard mission. Locked up so bad I could not even start the bike. My local Dealer picked her up within 30 minutes of my call to him. New switch was already on Order by the time she came off the trailer at the Shop and the new switch from Yammi should be in within 3-4 days. Can't ride this coming week anyhow cuz of our lousy weather of snow/sleet/ice.
MAINEAC Posted December 7, 2008 #2 Posted December 7, 2008 Here's a suggestion Boomer... Tell the dealer to use regular bolts when installing the new ignition switch... That way when it needs replacing again in a few years after the warrantee runs out you wont have to hack off the factory PIA bolts... I had mine replaced under warrantee (intermitent issues) and when I brought the bike to the dealer they said they could't do it I asked why not... they said they didn't have the fancy ignition bolts... I said No problem I don't want those things anyways... Turned out to be a win-win...
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #3 Posted December 7, 2008 Here's a suggestion Boomer... Tell the dealer to use regular bolts when installing the new ignition switch... That way when it needs replacing again in a few years after the warrantee runs out you wont have to hack off the factory PIA bolts... I had mine replaced under warrantee (intermitent issues) and when I brought the bike to the dealer they said they could't do it I asked why not... they said they didn't have the fancy ignition bolts... I said No problem I don't want those things anyways... Turned out to be a win-win... Already did that when I talked to the Tech at the Shop yesterday. I remembered reading here about those PITA bolts for the ignition switch. The Tech found a set of stainless steel bolts in his toolbox and he's gonna use them. I gave him $20 for lunch in return and put a nice smile on his face to boot..........
Eck Posted December 7, 2008 #4 Posted December 7, 2008 The Tech found a set of stainless steel bolts in his toolbox and he's gonna use them. I gave him $20 for lunch in return and put a nice smile on his face to boot.......... Hey BoomerCPO, in the future, if you EVER need another set of Stainless Steel bolts ...FOR ANYTHING............ PLEASE contact "ME"... Hell, I could use $20.00 bucks for two SS bolts and a big smile on my face to boot!!.. I know he is installing them for you, but I would too..
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #5 Posted December 7, 2008 The Tech found a set of stainless steel bolts in his toolbox and he's gonna use them. I gave him $20 for lunch in return and put a nice smile on his face to boot.......... Hey BoomerCPO, in the future, if you EVER need another set of Stainless Steel bolts ...FOR ANYTHING............ PLEASE contact "ME"... Hell, I could use $20.00 bucks for two SS bolts and a big smile on my face to boot!!.. I know he is installing them for you, but I would too.. Will do Eck! I am also considering buy an extra ignition switch to carry with me on the bike. It was a gut wrenching moment for me yesterday to realize that I was stuck on the road because of this lousy switch!! You are a fair distance from me but if you ever ride this far North give me a shout and lunch is on me.....at Hooter's of course!
Eck Posted December 7, 2008 #6 Posted December 7, 2008 Will do Eck! I am also considering buy an extra ignition switch to carry with me on the bike. It was a gut wrenching moment for me yesterday to realize that I was stuck on the road because of this lousy switch!! You are a fair distance from me but if you ever ride this far North give me a shout and lunch is on me.....at Hooter's of course! Know what you mean about that wrenching feeling stuck on the road...my bike just quit on me one day on the way to Ft. Collins, and I thought my whole trip was over, but it started back up anf the trip was a complete success. Ive been looking for a bad RSV switch that I can play with to see what I can come up with to make an easy quick fix on the road for everyone that has this problem. If you ever know of anyone that has an old defective switch, tell them I am looking for one please. Oh, and Someday, I just might take you up on that lunch offer too......you never know what Im up to..
flb_78 Posted December 7, 2008 #7 Posted December 7, 2008 Know what you mean about that wrenching feeling stuck on the road...my bike just quit on me one day on the way to Ft. Collins, and I thought my whole trip was over, but it started back up anf the trip was a complete success. Ive been looking for a bad RSV switch that I can play with to see what I can come up with to make an easy quick fix on the road for everyone that has this problem. If you ever know of anyone that has an old defective switch, tell them I am looking for one please. Oh, and Someday, I just might take you up on that lunch offer too......you never know what Im up to.. Ive got one. the hardest part about bypassing the switch is taking the tank off to get to the wires.
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #8 Posted December 7, 2008 Eck.....I will call the Tech first thing on Monday and see if I can have the damaged switch. If I can get it I will gladly ship it off to you. And that lunch offer is firm with no time expiration applied!
BradT Posted December 7, 2008 #9 Posted December 7, 2008 Eck I think I still have my switch somewhere. I think it would be cheaper to bring some 10 gauge wire, electrical tape and a Toggle switch, than buying a switch that you may not need. Brad
flb_78 Posted December 7, 2008 #10 Posted December 7, 2008 I was thinking the same thing. An extra switch is rather expensive. Instead, use the plug off you old switch and wire it direct, then, if the switch goes out again, just plug in the new one and get home.
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #11 Posted December 7, 2008 I was thinking the same thing. An extra switch is rather expensive. Instead, use the plug off you old switch and wire it direct, then, if the switch goes out again, just plug in the new one and get home. Is there a specific diagram/instructions for doing that? I could live with that a lot easier than forking out the $$$$ for a new switch to carry as a back-up.
flb_78 Posted December 7, 2008 #12 Posted December 7, 2008 The switch has 2 harnesses coming off of it. One 3 wire harness and one 2 wire harness. You'll notice the 2 wires are also considerable heavier gauge then the 3 wire harness. Just cut the 2 wire harness off and wire it together or lengthen the wires and install a toggle switch. This toggle switch is now the master off/on switch for the ignition. Put this little harness in with your tool kit or even zip tie it to the frame under your tank.
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #13 Posted December 7, 2008 That is just great! Thanks for the info. Tomorrow I will have the Tech do just that prior to installing the new switch on the bike. A heavy duty toggle switch with extra wire has to be cheaper than buying a new back-up OEM switch.........
Uturn Posted December 7, 2008 #14 Posted December 7, 2008 I was on a trip when mine went south on my Venture. Called my buddy and he looked on another site that outlined exactly how to stright wire it. That RSV tool kit came in handy. My "McGiver" pocket knife and a trip to Advance Auto for spades was all I needed to get me going. (And of course my phone call to "Dustydog20".) That is a good idea about using the old harness. Don't remember if the harness can be changed with out removing the tank. Think the new switch was $125 with two keys. Now take your old key and the new key to a parking lot key kiosk that has a manual key cutting machine. Have them cut the switch key on one side and the bag locks key on the other side. This way, you'll carry one key. Use ILCO blank # X248 / YM63 Keep the rubber side down. MIKE aka Uturn
flb_78 Posted December 7, 2008 #16 Posted December 7, 2008 Think the new switch was $125 with two keys. Now take your old key and the new key to a parking lot key kiosk that has a manual key cutting machine. Have them cut the switch key on one side and the bag locks key on the other side. This way, you'll carry one key. Use ILCO blank # X248 / YM63 Keep the rubber side down. MIKE aka Uturn Or just pop the 2 smaller bolts and switch the tumbler and keep using your old keys!!!
Dano Posted December 7, 2008 #17 Posted December 7, 2008 Just a thought here, if you use the crimp connectors to join the wires, get the type that has the heat-shrink ends, so you can seal up the connection. That way, when it's just sitting around waiting to be used (especially if tie-wrapped to the frame), you won't get any corrosion in there. Dan
BoomerCPO Posted December 7, 2008 Author #18 Posted December 7, 2008 Thanks a bunch guys! With the info in this thread alone I don't think I or any other Venture rider will be stranded on the road because of a faulty/failed ignition switch. Bravo Zulu to all who contributed info and pics!! Regards.........Boomer
BradT Posted December 8, 2008 #19 Posted December 8, 2008 If you are that concerned you can hook a switch up and hide it under the seat like the attached link. Or just bring the necessary tools with you. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=512 You will still need the key before it will start. Brad
BoomerCPO Posted December 8, 2008 Author #20 Posted December 8, 2008 When all is done I will have a emergency back-up ignition toggle switch hidden on the bike.
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