FROG MAN Posted December 6, 2008 #1 Posted December 6, 2008 In 1996 Mamamo and I hosted a NRA certified pistol training course on my grandpa's farm.We received our concealed permits shortly after that.Since then we sold the farm and moved in a couple of mobile homes on my property. One for my Dad after his heart attack in 95 and one that my daughter and family currently lives in. Our permits have been expired for 7-8 years as we basically run out room to shoot safely here on the property. After buying the camp last spring I mentioned about building a pistol shooting range out back and getting back into the game.My brother is wanting to set back up my reloading bench which brings me to my question. I have 9mm reloading dies but have never used them.Back in those days the price of plinking ammo was cheap.Have you ever reloaded pistol ammo for an autoloader? My concealed weapons ammo will be factory I'm just talking about plinking cartridges. it used to be we could buy bulk ammo at a cheap price.
Animal Posted December 6, 2008 #2 Posted December 6, 2008 I have personally reloaded most of the common Calibers out there from .25AUTO and .32WCF all the way up to .308 NORMA MAG and a few .50BMG it has been my experience that the smaller the projectile diameter the more exacting and careful you need to be the smaller cartridge cases have less brass at the mouth and are more susceptible to pealing and crushing.:starz: .38/357 are a breeze to reload and are fairly cheep to shoot if you make your own bullets out of lead tire weights (there is enough tin in the mix so you don't get really bad lead fouling) making my own and reloading with moderate plinking charge I was averaging about 5,000 to 7,000 rds. per pound of powder.:thumbsup2: I found 9mm a bit finicky (soft case mouth) found that if I tumble cleaned the empties and used Jacketed projectiles things worked a little smoother, lead projectiles are just too soft for an auto loader and also tend to peal on the case mouth. If you use carbide dies make sure to lube about 1 out of every 10-15 rds. keep a close check on head spacing and lube the projectile especially the chamfer rings. .45ACP are also a breeze and if your pistol has been reworked they tend to be garbage eaters (if it'll fit the magazine it'll shoot.) Have fun and use a reloading manual (Speer is excellent) :thumbsup:
BuckShot Posted December 7, 2008 #4 Posted December 7, 2008 I found 9mm a bit finicky (soft case mouth) found that if I tumble cleaned the empties and used Jacketed projectiles things worked a little smoother, lead projectiles are just too soft for an auto loader and also tend to peal on the case mouth. If you use carbide dies make sure to lube about 1 out of every 10-15 rds. keep a close check on head spacing and lube the projectile especially the chamfer rings. Have fun and use a reloading manual (Speer is excellent) :thumbsup: couldn't have said it any better myself. Even though its been along time sence I reloaded 9mm. The head spacing seemed to be very critical for my Smith. Everyone I talked with said the same,check every 3-5 rounds.
Redneck Posted December 7, 2008 #5 Posted December 7, 2008 You can still load cheaper than buying cheep amo. I would recommend reloading a few and testing them to make sure they cycle in your gun before you load a whole bunch that don't work well. Look at the primers of your test rounds for signs of over pressure (pushing the primer out or the dimple from the firing pin out). Don't load a light load in a 9mm unless you have changed the spring or you could have problems. I load 5.8 grains of acurate #5 behind a 125 gr jhp and they work well in all the 9mm's I have. Just take it slow so you remember all the little things you have forgotten. Some 9mm don't cycle good with hollow points but fmj's work good for plinking. What kind of 9mm do you have?
FROG MAN Posted December 7, 2008 Author #6 Posted December 7, 2008 There both Taurus.Mamamo has a PT-908 and mine is a PT-111 Pro.Neither real expensive but they shoot good.
Squidley Posted December 7, 2008 #7 Posted December 7, 2008 There both Taurus.Mamamo has a PT-908 and mine is a PT-111 Pro.Neither real expensive but they shoot good. I had a Taurus 9mm when I was in the service, good gun and mine shot well too. I believe they bought a Beretta factory in Brazil so amny years ago and started making them there...but that was a long time ago
flb_78 Posted December 7, 2008 #8 Posted December 7, 2008 Yep, Taurus bought a Beretta factory in Brazil. I have a PT24/7pro chambered in 9mm and have no problems out of it in thousands of rounds except for 1 box of Monarch ammo. Cheap Russian ammo.
Iowa Guy Posted December 7, 2008 #9 Posted December 7, 2008 Iowa so far is a "MAY" state. The sheriff's department in our county for the past 40+ years has not issued a non-professional concealed carry license. I applied anyway at the beginning of the year. Two weeks ago, I got a letter from the sheriff's dept. offering a handgun safety course to certify. For some reason sheriff had a change of heart. The written portion was a snap but wow: the shooting requirement was tough (for me). Using a NRA B-2 target at 25 feet we were to shoot 10 rounds in 5 minutes then 5 round in each of 2 clips with a clip exchange in 30 seconds all at a 80% accuracy. I shot 55%. I have some practicing to do. Next opportunity for qualification will be in the spring. Question: Is this the same criteria for qualifying that other programs have? Tougher/Easier? I am not complaining, just curious. With some practice and coaching I am sure that I can bring this score up Iowa Guy
bryan52577 Posted December 7, 2008 #10 Posted December 7, 2008 Iowa so far is a "MAY" state. The sheriff's department in our county for the past 40+ years has not issued a non-professional concealed carry license. I applied anyway at the beginning of the year. Question: Is this the same criteria for qualifying that other programs have? Tougher/Easier? I am not complaining, just curious. With some practice and coaching I am sure that I can bring this score up Iowa Guy WOW Jefferson county is going "Shall Issue"? Had no idea HELL froze! I use to live in Henry county had a permit when there, lost it when I moved to Mahaska county. As for the qualifications it seems to be up to the county sheriffs here in Iowa. When I recieved mine I took the writen test but the sheriff did not even have me go to the range, he just gave me a 93% score and the permit to carry. GOOD LUCK! Hope Mahaska has change of heart then I will be legal.
91nwl Posted December 8, 2008 #11 Posted December 8, 2008 If I was gonna shoot a lot I would get a good .357 mag revolver and re-load 38's for plinking.
Iowa Guy Posted May 18, 2009 #12 Posted May 18, 2009 Good News, I practiced more, got a more accurate weapon, and the qualification score was lowered to 60 and I passed on my first try. Just can't find any ammo for sale now. Its not that stores are not selling it. Its that they can't keep it on the shelf. It seems there is a hoarding fever out there that is self-maintaining. Iowa Guy
CMIKE Posted May 18, 2009 #13 Posted May 18, 2009 Seems if you do not have a supply of ammo now...it may be a while before you find enough to do any stocking up for yourself. Primers and bullets for certian calibers are kinda hard to find in my area. Loaded ammo for certian calibers can be found but others are kinda tricky to find. (45ACP) If you do find those tricky ones they are asking 2 prices for it. I have enough to do me but I am having to split between maintaining my skills and depleting my supply. Seems I shoot more than I can easiliy find to replace my stock right now. You gotta to maintain your muscle memory or you loose the skills.
RandyR Posted May 18, 2009 #14 Posted May 18, 2009 Lee makes a hand loader which takes normal dies, and is good for making small quantities of ammo. I use Accurate #5 powder for most of my pistol loads also. As has been said, FMJs are what the 9mm pistols need which make them a little more expensive to shoot than a .38spl which can take lead wadcutters for target use.
hillrider Posted May 18, 2009 #15 Posted May 18, 2009 Qualifing criteria for the state of GA. 1. Pass background exam. 2. Have fee (cash) 3. no 3 - only 1 & 2.
ADC Posted May 18, 2009 #16 Posted May 18, 2009 Just got my concealed carry last week took 1 1/2 mo. to get the permit.Fill out forms,background check,take course which consisted of listening to instructor go over the laws,watching a movie about the laws and on the range you shoot 10rnds each at 3,5 and 7yrds. Arthur
Sylvester Posted May 18, 2009 #17 Posted May 18, 2009 Medium caliber ammunition here in NC is all but gone. I carry a .380 and my son tried to get some ammunition for me in Asheville. It was $90/box of 50. I can get .38 special for my .357 but that is about it. Seems odd since I can get plenty of .44 mag. and .44 special.
midnightventure Posted May 19, 2009 #18 Posted May 19, 2009 I stocked up on primers bullets and powder years ago and I am really glad. I hope the ammo situation turns back around eventually.
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