could it be cabin fever.

[Dano]

I have read most of the "political" threads, whether they be about actual politics, the economy or Harley bikes. Very seldom do I post to these, as I tend to keep my opinion to myself or face to face encounters (well, except for the 1st/2nd gen thing!). Expression of ideas and the pursuant dialog on that subject is one of the inalienable rights of this country, but it is usually done in the correct forum. I agree with our "founding father" and our most wise and "well-rounded" moderator "The Squidley" and the rest of the Originals when they voted to not allow political discussion to be rampant on this great site. I have met some life-long friends and acquaintances on here, and would like it to remain that way. I mean, how can you find friends in Germany, Iceland, Australia and New Guinea, help them to get parts, advice, or just talk through emails about whats going on in their life? I cetainly don't get that thru other sites. And a few laughs thrown in along the way!

So, getting off of my soapbox, lets keep it true to the founders wishes, and control the urges when it happens!

 

Dan

[autopilot]

The process is always the same... subject is brought up with an opinion stated. That in & of itself isn't a bad thing. Problem is that there is usually a fair amount of emotion attached to it; again, not necessarily a bad thing, by itself. Where it goes south is that the opinion stated invariably strikes a nerve with someone of the opposite opinion. By itself, striking a nerve wouldn't be a bad thing, but what usually follows is a personal slam which as we all know usually results in chaos!

 

My question is: why is someones opinion on a subject, taken as a personal slam, just because it is disagrees with your own? Correspondingly, why does the responder feel the need to inject a personal jab? I mean, I lnow perfectly well, that people disagreeing with me are unintelligent, boring, misguided, underinformed boobs. I understand that, so if they're not swift enough to "get" it, it's no big deal. I know the only recourse for them, being in an inferior position in the debate is to try to make some lame crack on me, and since I know this ahead of time, I dismiss it and them out of hand. (and yes, that was some very dry sarcasm)

 

I wish we here could be like my neighbor and I about this stuff. Example: Saturday, we had a "very" spirited political discussion down at the corner country store. It lasted a hour or so, never devolved into personal attacks and when we were done, we laughed about it because we both understand how the game is played and are willing to keep it inside boundaries. The best part is that we have both learned a few things, conceded a couple of things here and there and most important, we have become good friends with genuine respect for each other. (considering I'm an educated, retired, "yankee, city-boy, transplanted, professional" in a semi-rural southern farming community, I think that's pretty darn good)

 

One last thought (which will hack somebody off [i forget who] because of a religious connotation but...) Proverbs 9:8 says "Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee." Proverbs 9:9 says Give [instruction] to a wise [man], and he will be yet wiser: teach a just [man], and he will increase in learning. The point? Try to be a wise man! .......When facts warrant, change your opinion; just don't compromise your values!

 

I'm done!

[Guest Swifty]

so if they're not swift enough to "get" it, it's no big deal.

[Snarley Bill]

Dang bill I'm glad I'm 6.5 I hope you don't woop my butt. I am regularly guilty of stiring the pot I try not to make personal attacks on others but I can only bite my toung so much before I shoot my fingers off. I have strong opinions that I should keep to myself. My apologys to all I have offended.

 

Now as far as this 1.58 gas goes thats very bad news. now the oil companys will be needing a bail out soon.:rotf:

don't think anyone owes anyone apologies. if we all thought the same thing and were totally agreeable it would be an awfully dull world. mike, i'm just like you, maybe a little shorter and on the other side of the fence, but not totally. hey i'm one of the biggest offenders, after all allanh blessed me with this name i have to live up to.lol. snarley bill

[mraf]

WOW!! What a bunch of opinionated Venturous people!

[Yammer Dan]

YANKEE?? Where?? Now where did I put that shotgun!!

[mraf]

YANKEE?? Where?? Now where did I put that shotgun!!

 

SHOTGUN!! Thought all you rebels only shot pumpkin balls out of grandpas musket.:rotfl:

[roadwarrior]

Why dont we all hold hands and sing Kumbaya.

[Guest BluesLover]

Sorry Autopilot, but I don't understand the comparison of a discussion on this forum to a discussion that you would have with your neighbour.

 

Nothing beats face to face communication.

 

The written word, without the context of body language, facial expressions, etc., can - and often is - misinterpreted.

 

Besides, it's easier to "rip into someone" when you don't have to look the other person in the eye!

 

Cheers,

[autopilot]

Sorry Autopilot, but I don't understand the comparison of a discussion on this forum to a discussion that you would have with your neighbour.

 

Nothing beats face to face communication.

 

The written word, without the context of body language, facial expressions, etc., can - and often is - misinterpreted.

 

Besides, it's easier to "rip into someone" when you don't have to look the other person in the eye!

 

Cheers,

 

All very true. My point was simply that we (my friend & I) can have a heated verbal gunfight and we don't call names; we don't say things about parentage, etc.; we don't imply stupidity on the others part....and when we're done we part on good terms & as friends,have a good laugh (if the subject warrrants) and agree to do it again sometime.

 

I prefer keeping it on an even keel, because I want to learn about the person....what makes him tick and what I might use in later conversations to get an edge. I can't do that if we're bordering on out of control. But, there are some people and certain times..........Well, you know!

[Jerry W]

Or, we could just discuss motorcycles instead of politics, unions, corporate management, etc.

[Grandpagak]

i dont do poloticks..yuppuree..