Bummer Posted November 9, 2008 #1 Posted November 9, 2008 Hi folks, I've been editing the Wikipedia Venture and RSV pages. I'm getting ready to bring the Venture page up to the style of the RSV page. As such I'm looking for a good pic (1024x768 res or better) of each Mk of the First Gen to put on the page. The pic has to be yours and you have to release it into the public domain. At this point I really only need two. I might be able to get away with one of each year, though I'm not sure how the senior editors feel about that sort of thing. Now you could do this yourself, but you have to do a minimum number of edits before you're allowed to post pics. Naturally corrective edits are welcome on either page. It's not like I own 'em or anything. I'm just trying to keep them in the same basic layout as the RSV one since it's similar to most of the other more established Wikipedia pages. I'm hoping that changing the page to a more Encyclopedic format will put an end to the battles over the adverts for the web sites that Freebird found when he first started the pages. (Thanks for starting them Don.) Anyone interested?
Thom Posted November 9, 2008 #2 Posted November 9, 2008 lets get a pretty one on it ! mine ain't pretty enough i vote for that great loolin mk.1 of Mike's and i think he has a high dif. pic
Squeeze Posted November 9, 2008 #3 Posted November 9, 2008 You sure should mention that the Venture Engine was the Mother of Vmax Engine and many Parts of the Vmax Motor have made their Way into the MKII.
Freebird Posted November 9, 2008 #4 Posted November 9, 2008 Steve, You have done an outstanding job on those entries. Far better than the meager information that I had started with. Thank you for taking the time.
GS51 Posted November 9, 2008 #5 Posted November 9, 2008 I hope these pictures goes through OK if i'll try again if you are looking for a pictire of first gen Venture then this is the one to use of if you would like i can thake a few more and let you chose This Venture is a 1983 and has the serial number of 00101. I call Yamaha last week and they told me their records don't go back that far the lowest serial number they ahve a record for is 00177. but they are of the opinion that is is in fact the first of the Verture model but their is no way to confirm it so they could not give me any documentation. the best thing is it's still on the road.
Bummer Posted November 9, 2008 Author #6 Posted November 9, 2008 Squeeze: I'll do my best. You'll have to check up on me after I've edited it to make sure I phrased things properly. I know a lot about these things, but not everything by a long shot. Don: Thanks. I'm very glad to help out the community. As an added plus I'm hoping that by adding detailed info the stuff about the clubs will remain without hassles from the upper level editors. GS51: You have a PM.
MikeM8560 Posted November 9, 2008 #7 Posted November 9, 2008 lets get a pretty one on it ! mine ain't pretty enough i vote for that great loolin mk.1 of Mike's and i think he has a high dif. pic Thanks Thom I could e mail him a full size pic if my sig link pics arnt big enought
Squeeze Posted November 9, 2008 #8 Posted November 9, 2008 Steve, who can say he knows everything ? That isn't important. The common Brain here on the Site could say we know 99.99 Percent of all what has to be known, but there's more to explore even when you have been everywhere and done everything. I like your writing Style and i wish o could phrase these Things as a Venture-History only half as fine as you do. I'd be honored to help.
Bummer Posted November 9, 2008 Author #9 Posted November 9, 2008 Ideally I'd like a quarter view. Check my pic on the RSV page. This shows the front end slightly as well as a good view of the side. I also need a statement that the pic is released into the public domain. If you want you can type up a caption, just keep in mind it has to fit in with the Encyclopedia nature of the site. Again, I can't use a bunch at this time. I don't know if a whole slideshow would be welcomed. Looking for a nice MKII also. PM me and I'll send you my email address if you're interested.
Bummer Posted November 9, 2008 Author #10 Posted November 9, 2008 I'm also looking for the LIT number for the First Gen Service Manual. I have one but can't find it right now. I'd like to use it as part of the reference structure. For some reason paper sources seem to make the senior editors happier than using all internet based references.
Bummer Posted November 9, 2008 Author #11 Posted November 9, 2008 Squeeze: How about checking the paragraph I added to the History section when you get a chance. Make sure it's what you meant. I had remembered the order somewhat differently. For some reason I thought the V-Max engine was first. Doing some research to work on the page I found out I was wrong.
MikeM8560 Posted November 9, 2008 #12 Posted November 9, 2008 Ideally I'd like a quarter view. I don't know if a whole slideshow would be welcomed. Looking for a nice MKII also. PM me and I'll send you my email address if you're interested. pm sent personaly ive also though the 1st gens best angle was the rear quarter. you have permision to use any photos of my 1984 venture XVZ1200 http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/MikeM8560/Venture%20XVZ12/th_1984YAMAHA1300d.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/MikeM8560/Venture%20XVZ12/th_1984YAMAHA1300q.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/MikeM8560/Venture%20XVZ12/th_venture.jpg http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b22/MikeM8560/Venture%20XVZ12/th_1984YAMAHA1300n.jpg
Bummer Posted November 10, 2008 Author #13 Posted November 10, 2008 Ok guys, I can use one more. Looking for a late model MK2, say 91 to 93 if possible.
Squeeze Posted November 10, 2008 #14 Posted November 10, 2008 The Reference from the MK I to the Vmax and back to the MKII is fine now. "The drive shaft and differential..." I don't think we should call the final Drive on Shaft driven Bikes a "Differential". Maybe you change that in final Drive, angled Gear or something in that Line. A Differential is built to compensate different Revelations betwenn inside and outside Wheel of an Axle.
Bummer Posted November 10, 2008 Author #15 Posted November 10, 2008 The Reference from the MK I to the Vmax and back to the MKII is fine now. "The drive shaft and differential..." I don't think we should call the final Drive on Shaft driven Bikes a "Differential". Maybe you change that in final Drive, angled Gear or something in that Line. A Differential is built to compensate different Revelations betwenn inside and outside Wheel of an Axle.You're absolutely right. No slippage. I didn't think of that, just went with the common term. I'll work on it. Thanks.
Dave77459 Posted November 10, 2008 #16 Posted November 10, 2008 First off, awesome page. There are some slangy sections (e.g., "ready to go"), but the information is excellent. Question: I know I must be missing it, but in the time line, where is the RSTD? I realize that it is a sibling of the Venture, but it is a different bike. We don't get the nifty cassette player.
Bummer Posted November 10, 2008 Author #17 Posted November 10, 2008 First off, awesome page. There are some slangy sections (e.g., "ready to go"), but the information is excellent. Question: I know I must be missing it, but in the time line, where is the RSTD? I realize that it is a sibling of the Venture, but it is a different bike. We don't get the nifty cassette player. I'm still working on proper turn of phrase. It's one thing to chat casually like on here, it's another thing altogether to put a suit and tie on it. I tend to whip the whole thing out then dress it up from there. It started with a couple of basic paragraphs that Freebird posted so there'd be something. I added the formatting and a lot of the details. It's a work in progress. Bear in mind that anyone can register to be a Wikipedia editor and edit almost any page they want. There's been a bit of back and forth over the Clubs section. Part of what I'm trying to do is include everyone so nobody feels a need to add themselves in the wrong place and mess the whole thing up, as has happened in the past. I'm working on a complete Yamaha V-4 based series. I'm adding the Royal Star now. I'll add the RSTD, but it'll take a little time. I'll be more than happy to accept a couple of pics of the RSTD also, but right now there isn't even a page to put 'em on. Of course, if you want to sign up and add it that's certainly ok too. I didn't create the timeline. It's a template that I've been working on correcting. You'll note it doesn't go back beyond 1990 which leaves out the MK1 First Gens altogether. I can add the RSTD, but as always, time and knowledge play their parts.
Squeeze Posted November 10, 2008 #18 Posted November 10, 2008 It's allways a Question about how much Information should be there in a Wikipedia Article. Basic Informations should be there and of Course they should be correct by any Meanings. But there's allways a "Fever" of putting more Informations into the Article. I personally see no Need of getting all the detailed Info into Wikipedia. It's important to cover all the Basic, but then if one is interested, there are a Lot of Sources out in the Net to provide any further and detailed Information. Bummer, you're doing a great Job there !!!
Bummer Posted November 10, 2008 Author #19 Posted November 10, 2008 Thanks Squeeze. I'm trying to maintain a bit of balance. I want to mention what makes them unique without letting the world know I'm completely prejudiced about these bikes.
Bummer Posted November 10, 2008 Author #20 Posted November 10, 2008 Folks, I think I'm good on First Gen images. Thanks guys.
Bummer Posted November 11, 2008 Author #21 Posted November 11, 2008 RSTD owners, I could use a couple of nice pics for the Wiki page. Midnight Venture owners, I could use a pic. Preferably with the studded seats. Royal Star owners, I need one more pic to go with the one I expect to get from Pegscraper. 1024x768 or larger preferred. The final image must be released to the public domain so that it can be displayed on Wikipedia. If you're interested let me know and I'll send you my email address. Anyone, if you can find issues with the pages linked to from here let me know so I can fix 'em. Thanks everyone.
Marcarl Posted November 11, 2008 #22 Posted November 11, 2008 Sounds to me like you're right into it Bummer, keep up the interesting work.
Bummer Posted November 11, 2008 Author #23 Posted November 11, 2008 I started out modifying two existing pages. Now I'm maintaining five. Getting carried away? Well, maybe.
Dano Posted November 11, 2008 #24 Posted November 11, 2008 I nu yuus wuz a smart feller there, Stevie, now yu don went and pruufed it. Dan
pegscraper Posted November 11, 2008 #25 Posted November 11, 2008 (edited) There were some other models of the early Royal Stars around. Mine is the Standard four muffler model. In the later years of the '96 - '01 run, there was also a Tour Classic with two mufflers and soft bags, and a Tour Deluxe model with two mufflers and hard bags (not to be confused with the '05 and newer RSTD). It would be nice if someone with these models could send him a picture. I know there are a few of you on here. Edited November 11, 2008 by pegscraper
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