Stator update: im at my wits end....

[Redneck]

Einey..meany..miney..moe... Nah, the one that runs....

[mraf]

You first Genners make the abuse so easy!!!

 

When you get right down to it there must not be near as much to fix on the first gens as there is on the second gens. Take the amount of first gen tech talk against the second gen tech talk section for instance. There is 1304 first gen ? or posts to 1086 second gen ? or posts. Now mind you the first gens stopped in 93 and the second gens are still being made. The difference is only 218 posts. Not bad for a bike thats been out of production for 15 yrs. So abuse away we really know the truth.:sign isnt that spec:nanner:

[mini-muffin]

It's ok now we're getting the plug for ruffy and mailing it to him. Hopefully that fixes everything.

 

Margaret

[lonestarmedic]

Hey - Thought maybe they kept a few things the same from 1st to 2nd Gen. Figured the rectifier was different. Thought maybe its plugs would match.

 

JB

[GeorgeS]

Well, either one, 1st or 2nd, they both came from the Factory with Lousy Quality Electrical Plugs !!! Especially the one going to the Regulator, ( 1st gen ) or the one At the Regulator ( 2nd Gen )

 

So, if you got a 2nd gen, its advisable to take a look at the plug on your Rectifyer/Regulator Unit. The pins don't fit tight, the plugs fill up with Oil and road crap, then the pins go high resistance, then they turn into heating elements, then they burn up, then your battery stops charging

 

And about the same story on the 1st Gens !!! But they are eaiser to fix, just cut out the plug and splice.

 

2nd gen, Hmmmmmm, not so easy to fix.

[1BigDog]

Thanks Muffy.......By the way..Lisa Lampanelli put on an awesome show too..LOL

 

As far as the plug goes, after we disassembled the plug, we found that yamaha did a very through job of "trying" to keep out the elements. The holes where the wires feed into the plug have a rubber seal on each one and the plug itself has a yellow insert that also has a rubber seal around it. Yet moisture and corrosion still found its way inside to wreak havoc. I couldnt believe what a poor fit the factory connections make on the blades. Every connection I tried was able to rock back and forth and had very little resistance when pulling the connector off of the blade. I wont even attribute this to being worn, considering that the regulator has only been off of the bike 3 times.

 

Ill just say that this was/is a learning experience. You got to figure that a 10 year old bike is going to start to have some issues, especially living down here in FL where the humidity plus living a few miles from the ocean would corrode most components on a bike.

 

You all gave me valuable advice and assistance with this. Had I just taken it to a dealer im sure the labor costs would have been astronomical. :mo money::mo money:Thanks everyone.

[Squidley]

I was out of it for a bit, but the plug was the problem with mine as the ground end got hot and melted the plastic around it. I ended up modifying it to make it work, but had to massage the actual female pin sides of it to make a tighter fit. If you think about it, where the regulator is mounted is a lousy place as it's low to the ground as you can get, right behind the front tire which will kick up dirt and crap. I'm glad that the headbanging worked out, I know that George knows his stuff

Edited October 5, 2008 by Squidley

[1BigDog]

Squid, the ground end was melted on mine too. Maybe it was underinflated too:pushups:

[Squidley]

Squid, the ground end was melted on mine too. Maybe it was underinflated too:pushups:

 

Metzler makes the rectifier too

[1BigDog]

Since I havent been able to locate a replacement plug im just going to have to modify the one I have now. It was almost impossible to locate the proper female pins that slide into the rectifier and lock into the plug. I looked everywhere. I was discussing this with one of our heavy truck mechanics at our shop and he took one look at the stock wire and pin set-up, walked away for a few minutes then came back with 5 perfectly matched wires with the proper female pin already soldered to the wire. Seems that International trucks use some of the same connectors. The wires were 6" long, plenty of wire to solder it together properly. The three white wires were the proper gauge but the red and black wires needed to be a thicker gauge. I soldered two heavier gauge wires, 10G I believe, to some connectors that I had. I plan on drilling the old stops out of the plug, installing it on the wires, connect the pins to its proper location, slide the plug over the rectifier, then add some RTV to the holes in the back of the plug to make it water tight. One thing you need to make sure of if attempting this kind of mod is to make a template of the wiring and place the wires in the exact same location otherwise POOF!!!!! Ill probably finish it on Friday.

[IH Truck Guy]

Since I havent been able to locate a replacement plug im just going to have to modify the one I have now. It was almost impossible to locate the proper female pins that slide into the rectifier and lock into the plug. I looked everywhere. I was discussing this with one of our heavy truck mechanics at our shop and he took one look at the stock wire and pin set-up, walked away for a few minutes then came back with 5 perfectly matched wires with the proper female pin already soldered to the wire. Seems that International trucks use some of the same connectors. The wires were 6" long, plenty of wire to solder it together properly. The three white wires were the proper gauge but the red and black wires needed to be a thicker gauge. I soldered two heavier gauge wires, 10G I believe, to some connectors that I had. I plan on drilling the old stops out of the plug, installing it on the wires, connect the pins to its proper location, slide the plug over the rectifier, then add some RTV to the holes in the back of the plug to make it water tight. One thing you need to make sure of if attempting this kind of mod is to make a template of the wiring and place the wires in the exact same location otherwise POOF!!!!! Ill probably finish it on Friday.

 

How about that..International Harvester to the rescue...

[1BigDog]

How about that..International Harvester to the rescue...

 

Somehow I just knew that would grab your attention.

[IH Truck Guy]

Somehow I just knew that would grab your attention.

 

Oh Yeah...:banana: Try that at a Peterbilt dealer.

I had a heater blower motor quit on me going across Iowa one fine-10 degree night.

I pulled into a IH tractor dealer to see if they might have one that would work.He was able to cross reference one that would fit.

I had to install it in my 4070B cabover.It installs from under the floorboard below the passenger seat and then you have to grab it from the top.My fingers were so cold,it slipped out and fell to the ground.:doh:The shaft wouldn't even turn.I took it back in to them and he replaced it free of charge.Although he did tell me that if it happened again,I was SOL.:whistling:Because that was their last one.... It was GREAT IH service...