neutral switch??

[godinmw]

have 2 problems with a 89 venture royale

first, when bike is cold everything works great, after about 15 minutes the bike starts to miss,if i take bike off the sidestand then it runs fine, seems okay if im driving

also the gear indicators only work in 3rd gear after bike runs about 15 minutes

just wondering if it could be a sidestand problem, neutral switch or both

[bongobobny]

Interesting problem!! I wonder if some sideplay in your transmission could be causing that...

 

You may want to swing a leg over and without putting the kickstand up, level out the bike and see if it starts running right. That would eliminate the kickstand switch.

 

I'm sure some other people here will have some ideas as well...

[Neil86]

Is the neutral light working or are you losing it with the gear indication?

[mbrood]

You can do some basic resistance checks on both...

 

http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/shift-switch.jpg

[Neil86]

Thats why I asked about neutral light....if you are losing both (light and indicator) its probably in the gear position switch/wiring....if you aren't losing the light possibly the CMS solder joints are bad.

Edited September 19, 2008 by Neil86

[godinmw]

i am losing neutral light with gear indication,

also if i level bike off it wont even start until i put kickstand up

[ju772]

What is the PN for the Shift Position Switch and where is it located?

[Neil86]

The gear position switch is accessed by removing the middle gear case cover, if you look below the clutch slave cylinder, waaaaay back in, you'll see a triangular white plastic plate with 7 terminals, only 6 used on the Venture (N+1~5 gears), thats the gear position or "neutral " switch. (the 83 used a different switch since it only had neutral light, no gear indication). If you remove the 3 philips screws (one in each corner) the switch can be pulled out. With the switch out, you'll see the head of a brass pin still attached to the shift shaft. As you shift gears, the shift shaft and this pin rotates making contact with another terminal of the switch, grounding one of the 6 wires from the CMS and neutral light. The pin is spring loaded and starts out with a round end that wears flat from rotating across the switch over the years. You might be able to just replace the pin ("neutral point") its spring ("compression spring") the o-ring on the switch, and the middle gear case gasket.

 

Part # are for 84-93 , prices are online from mrcycles.com

 

GASKET,CRCS COVER2 (thats the middle gear case gskt)

3JP-15461-01-00 (replaces 3JP-15461-00-00) $2.68

 

SPRING,COMPRESSION

90501-06022-00 $1.90

 

POINT, NEUTRAL (the brass pin)

4UN-18542-00-00 (replaces 278-18542-00-00) $0.92

 

NEUTRAL SWITCH ASY

41R-82540-02-00 (replaces 41R-82540-01-00) $46.79

 

O-RING (that seals the neutral switch, its a orange o ring)

93210-29196-00 $2.82

[ju772]

Thank you Neil86...