I hate to do this (tires again)

[mountainhorsega]

after all the other tire threads but... I keep reading that Avons are great but you get some bounce or wobble or some other adverse affect around 85MPH and up. True or Not? I have Commanders now and they have been great (smooth as glass up to 100). Needing to replace the front at 18,500. my last rear went 12k. You guys are spooking me off of Avons with this wobble talk - I routinely hit 85 and frequently above it - and I like everything to stay nice and steady. (Sorry to start this again, I went back and dug through the other threads and cant really find much definitive)

[Freebird]

The reports on the wobble are for the first gen Ventures only. '83-'93. I've seen no such reports in regards to the RSV or RSTD.

 

Also, I would kindly suggest that you fill our your profile by clicking on UserCP. Makes it much easier for folks to respond when we can easily tell exactly what bike you are riding.

[mountainhorsega]

Just got to busy to do it when I set up and forgot afterwards.

[Squidley]

The Avon issues are few and as mentioned only occur on certain 1st gens. I have run the Avons on my G2's with no problems, the Michelins are a great tire also, I would have no problem running either of them on my Venture

[Ozark]

I run the Avon Venoms on my first gen and have no problems, period. Good ride and good handling. I may have accidentally ridden slightly faster then 80 mph, but not every day. Also have new fork brace and it is awesome.

[YamaGeezer]

I'm confused. You've been very happy with Michelins and are getting very good mileage from them. Unless Avons are much cheaper, why change brands at all?

 

(I work for Michelin, so I'm a little biased.)

[Smokee]

Man, if I got 18,500 out of Michelins I wouldn't even look at another brand!

[Zane]

Hi all, I'm new here, just ran out of freebie time so got out my wallet and kicked the money up! I have a 90 VR and it had that wobble. mine was at b'tween 35 & 45. Read up on tightness of the neck bearings and tried it. Still wobbled with the proper torque so I did what any one would do......I tightened her some more. No more wobble anymore!Don't overdo it, but I don't happen to think 5 ft pounds is good enough

[E-Fishin-C]

Man, if I got 18,500 out of Michelins I wouldn't even look at another brand!

 

I got over 19,000 miles on the rear with my Avons Still had a bit of rubber left on it

[barend]

got 16K on my rear tire, I think it's a Commander, will look tonight and correct if necessary.

 

as far as wobble, i have a HD forkbrace and as long as I keep the front at about 45psi I'm golden -- but then I do have a sidecar

 

Oh, and I called the dealer on replacing the rear, I think the guy picked the first number over 100 that came to mind. told me $170 to change it, ... plus tire:sick: Only $25 if I just bring him the wheel! Yeah right, I'm all over that!!!

[GeorgeS]

I would look at steering head nut, " torque" setting as the root cause of wobble.

 

Then , " greese " the steering head bearings !!

 

Then add a fork brace.

 

Then add progressive suspension springs.

 

Then, check the torque of the rear swing arm bearings. (( And greese these bearings !! ))

 

Then check the torque settings of " ALL " of the Main frame bolts and nuts.

 

If wobble still present, then I would consider changing front tires to try to correct front end wobble.

 

I cured my front end wobble by simple adjusting the steering head torque setting. !! And of course, adding the fork brace and progressive springs, greatly improved the overall general handling of my 89. Money well spent. !!!!

Edited June 29, 2010 by GeorgeS

[saddlebum]

I got over 19,000 miles on the rear with my Avons Still had a bit of rubber left on it

CHARLIE the rubber between the cord strands DOES NOT COUNT

[ArticusMedicus]

I got over 19,000 miles on the rear with my Avons Still had a bit of rubber left on it

Good lord Charlie... Wha'dija do? Run'er down on the side walls?

 

[KiteSquid]

I also recommend checking tire ballace yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I use this one from Harbor Freight HERE

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_4126.jpg

 

worth every penny I spent on it......

[Yammer Dan]

I also recommend checking tire ballace yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I use this one from Harbor Freight HERE

 

http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/370x370/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_4126.jpg

 

worth every penny I spent on it......

 

 

I use two cinderblocks with the end with the grove turned up. Sit axel in grove and balance tire.

[jasonm.]

My '87VR...One AVon Elan rear I got around 20k miles out of...That was the old Elan. Now my VenomX only got 10k. They told me , "IT'S the same tire different tread pattern". Both had 47psi in them. I think they changed something and did not tell me...? Does anyone know the Max. PSI for a Commander? Is it like a Dunlop...44psi. Avons are 50psi. call me Curious:confused07: ANd those curious about wobbles....high speed it's worn head bearing. Low speed...new or old bearings, it's there to some degree. Especially no hand and hit a good BUMP! Not something you practice. Worn bearings act like a pendulum(low spot). I replaced my bearings last year. BEST thing I did in the last 20 years.

Edited July 22, 2010 by jasonm.

[Squidley]

call me Curious:confused07:

 

OK.....Curious

[CrazyHorse]

after all the other tire threads but... I keep reading that Avons are great but you get some bounce or wobble or some other adverse affect around 85MPH and up. True or Not? I have Commanders now and they have been great (smooth as glass up to 100). Needing to replace the front at 18,500. my last rear went 12k. You guys are spooking me off of Avons with this wobble talk - I routinely hit 85 and frequently above it - and I like everything to stay nice and steady. (Sorry to start this again, I went back and dug through the other threads and cant really find much definitive)

 

Never had a problem. I run 50 psi any less and you feel a difference. Avon guy at the bike show told me to run max air.