Another Whine

[hdroyer]

I went on a ride to day 7:30AM about 48 degree's all of a sudden a loud whine, Puled in clutch still whine. Slowed down the bike so did the whine just be for complete stop the whine stop. Stared to go again no whine then about 20 miles the whine returned same as before pulled in clutch still whine just before stop it quit. Did this three times in 50 miles. Sound like from the u joint or drive shaft, I greased the final drive and the drive shaft when I put new tire on 11,000 miles ago. Went 150 Miles never happened again, I have a new tire to put on the rear so while it was apart maybe I can fix this if I new what it might be.

Thanks, Dale

[friesman]

that sounds kinda like mine did before the main output shaft on my 85 went. I had a whine that would come and go and i couldnt track down. finally found it when my output gear went inside the gear box.

the guys here think that the driveshaft snapped at the ujoint and was held together by the nut, and i couldnt find it. it set up a vibration that took out the gears eventually.

 

Brian

 

heres a couple of pics

[Venturous Randy]

This is easy but a little work. Your problem is the speedometer that needs grease where the cable goes into the housing. You really need to remove the dash and speedometer to take it out and put good moly grease down into the bearing area. If you get caught out and it does it, just unscrew your cable housing at the front wheel axle. Just make sure you contain the cable. Also when you put it back together, make sure you get it tight at the speedometer so the housing does not unscrew and you loose the cable. I put a wire tie around the cable near the speedometer so if it did come loose, it will not fall out. This also helps keep the cable in place when you take the dash out.

You will hear more of this happening on here as it usually gets worse as the weather gets cooler.

One other fix if you do not want to remove the dash assembly is to take the cable loose and use a stiff wire to push grease up through the hole where the cable goes. I do not suggest squirting WD40 up in the hole as it gets all over the inside of the speedometer.

RandyA

[Gearhead]

Are you sure it's from the driveshaft area? Reason I ask is that it sounds alot like a dry speedo bushing.

 

Jeremy

[Venturous Randy]

Are you sure it's from the driveshaft area? Reason I ask is that it sounds alot like a dry speedo bushing.

 

Jeremy

 

As the saying goes, "Been there, Done that"

RandyA

[hdroyer]

Thanks, RandyA I will try this and see what happens

This is easy but a little work. Your problem is the speedometer that needs grease where the cable goes into the housing. You really need to remove the dash and speedometer to take it out and put good moly grease down into the bearing area. If you get caught out and it does it, just unscrew your cable housing at the front wheel axle. Just make sure you contain the cable. Also when you put it back together, make sure you get it tight at the speedometer so the housing does not unscrew and you loose the cable. I put a wire tie around the cable near the speedometer so if it did come loose, it will not fall out. This also helps keep the cable in place when you take the dash out.

You will hear more of this happening on here as it usually gets worse as the weather gets cooler.

One other fix if you do not want to remove the dash assembly is to take the cable loose and use a stiff wire to push grease up through the hole where the cable goes. I do not suggest squirting WD40 up in the hole as it gets all over the inside of the speedometer.

RandyA

[Condor]

I went on a ride to day 7:30AM about 48 degree's all of a sudden a loud whine, Puled in clutch still whine. Slowed down the bike so did the whine just be for complete stop the whine stop. Stared to go again no whine then about 20 miles the whine returned same as before pulled in clutch still whine just before stop it quit. Did this three times in 50 miles. Sound like from the u joint or drive shaft, I greased the final drive and the drive shaft when I put new tire on 11,000 miles ago. Went 150 Miles never happened again, I have a new tire to put on the rear so while it was apart maybe I can fix this if I new what it might be.

Thanks, Dale

 

Was it a whine or more like a groan?? Speedo's will develope a moan/groan from several different areas. Usually happens when cold and just starting out. Stop and it goes away, and sometimes never starts up again until the next cold morning. Mine was caused by the cable fitting coming loose where it attaches to the dash. Others report dry, or damaged speedo cables.

[CrazyHorse]

I have the whine too sounds like its from the left side only when moving disappears when clutch pulled in. Very annoying.

[Condor]

I have the whine too sounds like its from the left side only when moving disappears when clutch pulled in. Very annoying.

 

If it disappears when you pull in the clutch it's a whole 'nother animal.....

[MiCarl]

that sounds kinda like mine did before the main output shaft on my 85 went. I had a whine that would come and go and i couldnt track down. finally found it when my output gear went inside the gear box.

the guys here think that the driveshaft snapped at the ujoint and was held together by the nut, and i couldnt find it. it set up a vibration that took out the gears eventually.

 

Brian

 

heres a couple of pics

 

Friesman, if you want the complete set I have a pinion that matches your output shaft. My pinion broke between the splines and the nut, just like your output shaft.

[friesman]

Friesman, if you want the complete set I have a pinion that matches your output shaft. My pinion broke between the splines and the nut, just like your output shaft.

 

sucks dont it, at least ive got some time to round up parts and give my trusty fantastic mechanic friend(note the buttering up...he reads everything in here...) time to get them in before spring. I woulda been real ticked if it woulda happened in early June or sumthing..and woulda lost a good summers riding....lol

 

 

 

Brian

[Rocket]

sucks dont it, at least ive got some time to round up parts and give my trusty fantastic mechanic friend(note the buttering up...he reads everything in here...) time to get them in before spring. I woulda been real ticked if it woulda happened in early June or sumthing..and woulda lost a good summers riding....lol

 

 

 

Brian

 

Not everything, but quite a bit.......... But you would be better off with a matched set anyways.

[CrazyHorse]

If it disappears when you pull in the clutch it's a whole 'nother animal.....

 

 

What kind of animal? I'm going to be ripping out the 1st Gen tranny this winter and putting in a 2nd Gen tranny with vmax rear end. What should I should I look for when I do this?

[GigaWhiskey]

hdroyer, just take a pair of pliers and loosen the cable nut at the wheel hub. Pull the cable out and snug the cable nut back on. Drive for a minute and you will know for sure where it is coming from.

 

The colder it is, the louder it seems to get.

[hdroyer]

Thanks, Everyone for the input, I removed the dash and lubed the speedo cable and pushed some molly grease up in to the bearing. Will see if it happens again, not sure if its a whine groan or moan its something ???

[Venturous Randy]

The first time I had this happen, I was down on the Outer Banks of NC, abour 350 miles from home. I was a cool morning and was taking a beautiful ride. Then, all of a sudden I had the crap scared out of me. If you put groan, moan, whine and squeal all into one and made it loud, that is what happened on mine. It made so much noise that it was hard to determine where it came from. When I pulled over and when I got down to about 5mph, the noise quit. I sat there a minute doing the clutch in, clutch out, in gear, out of gear and everything seemed fine. Being that far from home it does tend to magnify problems a lot more.

I pulled back on the highway and rode for miles and it did not do it again. It did not do it until I got the bike back home. I knew it had to be something besides the drivetrain as those noises tend to not come and go. When it happened a couple more times, I took the cable loose and determined it was related to it. I did the usual pull cable out and lube it and that did not stop the noise.

I ended up pulling the speedo and greased the bearing and all is well. I have greased it a couple of times over the last 60,000 miles with no problem. I hope this resolves your problem.

RandyA

Edited September 14, 2008 by Venturous Randy

[hdroyer]

randya

Did you take the whole dash apart? I removed the cable an pushed grease up in to the bearing where the cable gos and put cable lube in the cable.

The first time I had this happen, I was down on the Outter Banks of NC, abour 350 miles from home. I was a cool morning and was taking a beautiful ride. Then, all of a sudden I had the crap scared out of me. If you put groan, moan, whine and squeal all into one and made it loud, that is what happened on mine. It made so much noise that it was hard to determine where it came from. When I pulled over and when I got down to about 5mph, the noise quit. I sat there a minute doing the clutch in, clutch out, in gear, out of gear and everything seemed fine. Being that far from home it does tend to magnify problems a lot more.

I pulled back on the highway and rode for miles and it did not do it again. It did not do it until I got the bike back home. I knew it had to be something besides the drivetrain as those noises tend to not come and go. When it happened a couple more times, I took the cable loose and determined it was related to it. I did the usual pull cable out and lube it and that did not stop the noise.

I ended up pulling the speedo and greased the bearing and all is well. I have greased it a couple of times over the last 60,000 miles with no problem. I hope this resolves your problem.

RandyA

[Condor]

What kind of animal? I'm going to be ripping out the 1st Gen tranny this winter and putting in a 2nd Gen tranny with vmax rear end. What should I should I look for when I do this?

 

If it's trans related you're going in the right direction. I've never been inside the trans, but there are some very knowledgeable members here who have. There's also a ton of posts on the subject. I doubt you would have time to read them all. Any noise that comes and goes when the clutch is worked is either in the clutch itself or the trans. Good luck.

[Squidley]

The speedo on a G2 doesn't have a cable

[Venturous Randy]

The speedo on a G2 doesn't have a cable

 

1st gens do have a cable, but they are not off by about 15%

RandyA

[CrazyHorse]

1st gens do have a cable, but they are not off by about 15%

RandyA

 

 

Mine is off about 10%

[CrazyHorse]

If it's trans related you're going in the right direction. I've never been inside the trans, but there are some very knowledgeable members here who have. There's also a ton of posts on the subject. I doubt you would have time to read them all. Any noise that comes and goes when the clutch is worked is either in the clutch itself or the trans. Good luck.

 

 

Thats what I'm figuring its just an annoying noise that I'd like to get rid of. I'm hoping its not a cracked or broken driveshaft.

[Squidley]

1st gens do have a cable, but they are not off by about 15%

RandyA

 

 

It's only about 8% Randy...you 1st genners, always stretching the truth

[krome rose]

Did someone mention they had wine?

[Venturous Randy]

It's only about 8% Randy...you 1st genners, always stretching the truth

 

Well, if you are not going to stretch the truth a little bit, it"s not worth putting up!!!

RandyA