Cinderella Posted September 11, 2008 Share #1 Posted September 11, 2008 This was rather devastating.I have kind of worked my way thru it for now but Dale is pretty messed up over it. To tell the whole story, about a week before the incident happened to haylie, she had went over to the neighbors ( the new ones to neighborhood who live on the other side of the scum) to see if their little boy could play he is 4 1/2...his mother told haylie no she couldnt play with him for a while becuase he said she had touched his private part.....she came home told me i was i was blown away.I questioned her and she told me she accidentally touched him with her foot while they were swimming in our pool. I had intended to go talk to the mom and then everything happened and it got put on the back burner . The boys mother had stopped over after she found out what happened to haylie and we talked about it and it was my understanding that all was cool.....an innocent mishap while two young kids are playing. She was pretty flipped out about what happened to haylie, hugged me etc. Yesterday our detective calls me and wants to talk to me. Apparently the little boy is acting out and making accusations....he said he was in our house in H's bedroom and she took her clothes off in front of him and touched his private thru his pants. And then that Dale and I came in and took their picture with a camera. I was floored.....i said we didnt take his picture and the detectives and i went thru my camera and all the pics on my pc to make sure. I also said anytime he was in the house I shooed em back outside cause i make them play outside. of course then came more questions.....do you have porn on your computer? specifically child porn....NO.......would you let our experts go thru your computer if need be......YES. Dale was sleeping so they wanted to talk to him when he got up. He went down to the station and got the same questions more or less. They appologized for having to do this after all weve been thru but explained anytime a child makes a statement they have to check it out. Apparently they even sent the boy down for a forensic interview like Haylie had to do. They told us theye were a lot of discrepincies as to what the parents said he said and what he actually said at the interview. We can certainly understand the need and urgency to check this out but man o man can you imagine what we are feeling now. After we both finished they pretty much told us that most likely this is the last we will hear from them on it, I dont think they believe that any of it happened and that the MOM is a little off and over paranoid and may be putting ideas in the boys head. We dont understand why this woman would want to hurt us or accuse us of stuff...its like something happened to Haylie so now she is sure something has happened to her boy. Everytime things start to settle down a little someone throws another log on the fire. I questioned H again about all this and in fact the detective told me not to press her about it after i told him i asked her again.he doesnt want her worrying about anything else. so apparently they think this is a dead subject....lets hope so....Ive had enough. so this upset just caused us to say the h*** with it lets stay home....and the weather looks like rain most of the time for eureka springs and i dont need to be riding that far back and forth in the rain after the hospital time so here we sit again. My daughter is here from ohio now..so maybe dale and i will at least get a night out alone sometime this weekend. Id like to just run away and forget it all, but i know that doesnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 11, 2008 Share #2 Posted September 11, 2008 Hang in there Cindy. We are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetnothing Posted September 11, 2008 Share #3 Posted September 11, 2008 Cindy, Has this boy been over to the other neighbors house? Where would a boy his age get ideas like that? And know that if he was "bumped", that it was wrong? Sometimes things come out of this kind of stuff, that is not true! Take a load off and sit around for a while, you and Dale need to take a ride and have a picnic. Just the 2 of you go out and spend some time together, and clear your mind! We are here for you guys! Hang in there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brake Pad Posted September 11, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 11, 2008 check your PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderella Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted September 11, 2008 Cindy, Has this boy been over to the other neighbors house? Where would a boy his age get ideas like that? And know that if he was "bumped", that it was wrong? Sometimes things come out of this kind of stuff, that is not true! Take a load off and sit around for a while, you and Dale need to take a ride and have a picnic. Just the 2 of you go out and spend some time together, and clear your mind! We are here for you guys! Hang in there! the detctives asked me if i thought he may have ever been over the neighbors were H was assualted with her.....my honest opinion was no.....but whos to say something hasnt happened to him somewhere or sometime along the line. I dont have the answers but that doesnt make it right for this mom to start head hunting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarges46 Posted September 11, 2008 Share #6 Posted September 11, 2008 Wow.....hard to explain that behaviour from that Mom! As if you guys havent been through enough. I just sit here shaking my head at it all.....you guys are hanging in there through some very tough times.....we are all rooting and thinking only good thoughts for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted September 11, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 11, 2008 I'm not going to get on a soapbox here, but you might want to contact a lawyer and discuss what has gone on here and file charges. As always we are here for you and WE WILL help you folks through this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowawegian Posted September 11, 2008 Share #8 Posted September 11, 2008 Just wanted you to know that your family are in our families thoughts and prayers nightly. You are a strong person and I know you'll get through all of this...I'm sure sometimes it seems as though it's never going to end, but it will. Please take some time for you and the hubby to get out and away from it even for just a few hours. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Myers Posted September 11, 2008 Share #9 Posted September 11, 2008 Sounds like his mommie is an attention "ho". She needs her 3 minutes in the spotlight any way she can get it. So, give it to her-in court on the other end of a civil suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTirelli Posted September 11, 2008 Share #10 Posted September 11, 2008 Cindy and Dale, In 23 years as a LEO, I have seen this kind of stuff before. Unfortunately, the mother sounds a little unstable and in a sick way might be jealous of the 'attention' that others are getting. It's a psycological disorder that is out there. I still believe that there are other victims of this animal out there, either they haven't told anyone or the ones that they've told are in denial. Thank God that YOU listened and acted. You and your family have done nothing wrong here, remember that. Anything I can do to help, just call or write. Vin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini-muffin Posted September 11, 2008 Share #11 Posted September 11, 2008 Sorry this happened. Not sure what this mom's problem is, but hopefully she'll stay clear of you folks. I hope you and Dale can get out to dinner or something just for the break. Hang tough we're all here for you guys. Some people are just unbelievable at what they'll do. Glad you feel you can tell us this stuff, makes it easier to deal with if you have folks to talk to. Big hugs for you Dale, and H. Margaret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted September 11, 2008 Share #12 Posted September 11, 2008 We're with you in this, praying for you and listening to you. Keep posting and keep us up to date. Just a thought: If the man is home now, he may be involved in this, by putting things in the young boys head,,,,,,,and so take some of the heat off of himself,,,by showing that it's a two way street here and it's not his fault alone but that Haley may be instigating it somewhat. That's probably what the dectictives were searching out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted September 11, 2008 Share #13 Posted September 11, 2008 More prayers up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted September 11, 2008 Share #14 Posted September 11, 2008 We moved into a neighbor hood when my son was about five years old that had several kids his age. A woman behind us had a daughter that was about a year older and he would occasionally play with her. Well, childhood curosity got the best of them and they did some show and tell. The other mother saw this and went ballistic calling a five year old a pervert and other stuff. We treated it a little nonchantly and told our son that he really should not be doing this. The girls mother must have really raked the girl over the coals. Our son had no other contact with the girl and I think by the time the girl was about 15, she was pregnant. If you have an older child or an adult, this needs to be delt with, but this kind of trama on a five or six year old child can scar them for life. I am not condoneing the show and tell between children, but it needs to be put in proper perspective. She could have said" Boy, he sure has a lot of curosity" and my wife would have said "Yeah, he takes after his dad". RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtman Posted September 12, 2008 Share #15 Posted September 12, 2008 I'm kinda with Squid on the lawyer but barring that, do try to get a copy of the police report. It is real important to know what was written down, which does not always jive with what was said and should something in the future come up and records are reviewed, then you know what the official record says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted September 12, 2008 Share #16 Posted September 12, 2008 Thinking of you and your family in this hard times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted September 12, 2008 Share #17 Posted September 12, 2008 My first thought was the mother is looking for attention. I personally would not waste my time and emotions to get revenge against her because it will hurt you more than her. I would just stay away from her and try to put the situation behind me and look forward not back. I would recommend getting a copy of the police report make sure it is correct and keep it for ever for your protection. I'm really sorry to hear all of this I would not wish this on an enemy. Keep in mind this is just a test and you can and will pass it just keep looking forward.We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted September 12, 2008 Share #18 Posted September 12, 2008 My first thought was the mother is looking for attention. I personally would not waste my time and emotions to get revenge against her because it will hurt you more than her. I would just stay away from her and try to put the situation behind me and look forward not back. This is what we did and when I look back on it, it was the best thing. They really were crazy people and it showed in their kids. RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonRider Posted September 12, 2008 Share #19 Posted September 12, 2008 I havent been there, dont know how to react, but I would just make sure my kid stays away from her kid and make sure you have all the info the police filed and keep copies forever.............. Maybe that mother needs some counseling to deal with whatever her problem is........... Keep the faith, we are praying for all of you.............. Lewis & Charlene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krome rose Posted September 12, 2008 Share #20 Posted September 12, 2008 Kids overhear alot more than we give them credit for, and build scenarios in their little mind to fill in the blanks of what's not being said. I truely believe the boy made some of it up to test his own mother's concerns for him. He wanted to make sure that he and Halie were not in trouble for the horseplay in the pool....the rest is fabricated to appease a frantic mother's proding. Brandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1BigDog Posted September 12, 2008 Share #21 Posted September 12, 2008 Its just one thing after another, aint it? Sorry you all are going through this. Sure wish I could offer up some magical words but all I can do is to keep you in our prayers. If it was me I just dont know how I would react, but im pretty sure it may involve some jail time for me......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tessa c2 Posted September 13, 2008 Share #22 Posted September 13, 2008 sorry cindy for all the blaim stupid bad luck that has gone your way, like this boy is 41/2 like he has big problems at home, and using hailey to vent. just to basd thimes have changed the way they have, just watch your family, and take care. you know the way things are going, one is even scared to hug your own kids now a days, t/c pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH Truck Guy Posted September 13, 2008 Share #23 Posted September 13, 2008 Cindy,we're glad you got out of the hospital and are feeling a little better,but you sure didn't need this... Your in our thoughts everyday..Hang in there.......It will get better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonslayer Posted September 13, 2008 Share #24 Posted September 13, 2008 Cindi, When I was kid growing up and my older sister would be being mean to me, my mother would always tell me to pretend she was a cabbage head and whatever she was saying to me to be mean really didn't matter because after all she was only just a cabbage head. As adults we might use the cliche "consider the source" in smilar situations. So, my advice to you is: Unless you can get the help of your Fairy God Mother and her magic wand to turn them into Cabbage heads I would just say Bippity Boppity Boop and move on. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted September 13, 2008 Share #25 Posted September 13, 2008 I'm kinda with Squid on the lawyer but barring that, do try to get a copy of the police report. It is real important to know what was written down, which does not always jive with what was said and should something in the future come up and records are reviewed, then you know what the official record says. I fully agree, look how I almost lost out on my insurance claim when that guy cut me off and caused me to wipe out. Had I not asked for a copy of the police report, I would never have found out that the officer filled an inaccurate report having left out key facts and by doing so gave the other guy,s story more credibility than my version of what happend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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